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Mail messages missing...

Don't know if this is a Sierra issue or not, but this is the first time it has happened, and within 2 days of upgrading to Sierra.


My main mail IMAP mail account was working fine this morning. About 49,000 messages. I glanced over at the Mail window this afternoon and it was completely blank. No messages. Title bar says "0 filtered messages".


The messages appear on my phone/ipad/webmail, but not in Apple Mail for this particular account. Other accounts are displaying fine.


I have tried rebuilding the mailbox, no change.

I have deleted the IMAP account and re-created it, it re-downloads the 49,000 messages, but doesn't display them.


The messages are still on the IMAP server, I can do an "about this account" and it shows there are 49,000 messages in the inbox.


So, now what?

Mac Pro, macOS Sierra (10.12), 12-Core 64G RAM - 1TB SSD Flash

Posted on Sep 24, 2016 1:49 PM

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Posted on Sep 24, 2016 2:56 PM

With Mail quit....

Go to the User's Library folder. This folder is hidden by default. To unhide: Select the Finder in the Dock. Under Go in the Menu bar > hold down the Option key and you’ll see the Library.


• Go to Containers. Drag the com.apple.mail folder to the Desktop

• Go to Mail folder.

Select the V4 > MailData folder.

Delete any files in MailData with envelope in the name. (should be 3)

Open Mail. It will reindex your files.


Let me know if this resolves your issue.

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Sep 24, 2016 2:56 PM in response to starion

With Mail quit....

Go to the User's Library folder. This folder is hidden by default. To unhide: Select the Finder in the Dock. Under Go in the Menu bar > hold down the Option key and you’ll see the Library.


• Go to Containers. Drag the com.apple.mail folder to the Desktop

• Go to Mail folder.

Select the V4 > MailData folder.

Delete any files in MailData with envelope in the name. (should be 3)

Open Mail. It will reindex your files.


Let me know if this resolves your issue.

Sep 24, 2016 4:11 PM in response to starion

Setup a new account, see if the problem's global, or just related to your account...

CREATE A NEW USER


Go to System Preferences --> Create a New User in Users & Groups.

Switch to the New User by logging out/in or use Fast User Switching.

You can skip signing in with your Apple ID unless you want to test any iCloud features.


Only default Apple apps will be in the Dock in the new User. Go to Applications to open other apps you might want to test.


Do you still see the issue?


If yes, then the problem is with your base files.

If no, then the problem is in your User's folder.

Sep 24, 2016 7:29 PM in response to dianeoforegon

You know what really chaps my hide is not that Apple's software randomly corrupts itself for no reason, it's that I have to reinstall the WHOLE operating system JUST to correct a Mail app problem. They have created a monster by having everything so interconnected in the system that you have to replace everything if one app misbehaves.


I have used *nix for years and NOT ONCE had to do a complete OS re-install because one program crashed (and crashing in itself is rare anyway).


OSX on the other hand, is a constant source of little things that stop working for no apparent reason. I should also note that most of the problems that I have with third-party apps not working are almost ALWAYS due to something Apple changed in OSX.


Apple, you are starting to become high-maintenance. Are you listening Apple? Probably not.

Nov 18, 2016 10:27 AM in response to starion

Doing a clean install is not always required. Often it's a better option because the user has many years of installing over the base system.


You mentioned "Are you listening Apple?"... If you want Apple to hear your complaint, send feedback. This forum is a user to user support system. Not a way to communicate with Apple.


http://www.apple.com/feedback/macosx.html

Nov 22, 2016 8:02 PM in response to Robb Allan

This fixed the issue for a user we have. Some mailboxes, including sent items, had a filter applied so were showing no mail even though we could see in webmail the items were there (menu bar at top was reporting 0 filtered results)


Turned off filters and all mail was visible again. The filter is applied per mailbox folder, so you have to select each mailbox and then click View - > Disable Filter (or Command-L) for every folder where the messages are hidden.


Strangely, these filters were brought across from a clean install of Sierra and re-add the google mail account. Same behavior before and after the clean install.


Thanks for this.

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