iOS 10 using WiFi Networks without Internet Access

I work in the live entertainment industry where we often use iPads etc. for wireless remote control of equipment and devices. On these "adhoc" wireless networks, we most often do not want to connect our access points or wireless routers to internet access. Up until the release of iOS 10, this has not been a problem for connection because we just connect the iPad to the network using a static IP in the subnet range of our console, projector, or other device. Since installing iOS 10.0.2, this way of connecting to the network is no longer working. When trying to connect to the network we now get an "!" on the network connection and we are unable to access our devices directly.


Is there a way to force the iPad onto a WiFi network that intentionally does not have internet access without having to setup a client portal on the access point or router?User uploaded fileUser uploaded file

iPad Air, iOS 10.0.2

Posted on Oct 12, 2016 10:51 AM

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Posted on Nov 21, 2016 3:54 PM

Greg contacted Lantronix Technical Support, where I am a Senior Technical Support Engineer about this issue when using an iPad or iPhone running iOS 10.x to connect to a device using a Lantronix xPico WiFi as its WiFi interface.


I confirmed the behavior from an iPhone 6s+ running iOS 10.1.1.


I tried LACAllen's work around, setting up a static IP address and using the xPico WiFi's IP address for the Router and DNS settings. This caused the "No Internet Connection" warning to disappear, and allowed me to open the xPico WiFi's web configuration interface, and also to open a TCP connection to the xPico WiFi's serial interface, which listens on TCP 10001 by default and get bidirectional communication through the serial interface.


I've submitted a request to populate the Router and DNS fields from the xPico WiFi's Soft AP DHCP server in a future version of firmware.


We also request that Apple provide an option in a future version of iOS to revert to the iOS 9 behavior for stand-alone WiFi devices that do not require an Internet connection.

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Nov 21, 2016 3:54 PM in response to GregTMN

Greg contacted Lantronix Technical Support, where I am a Senior Technical Support Engineer about this issue when using an iPad or iPhone running iOS 10.x to connect to a device using a Lantronix xPico WiFi as its WiFi interface.


I confirmed the behavior from an iPhone 6s+ running iOS 10.1.1.


I tried LACAllen's work around, setting up a static IP address and using the xPico WiFi's IP address for the Router and DNS settings. This caused the "No Internet Connection" warning to disappear, and allowed me to open the xPico WiFi's web configuration interface, and also to open a TCP connection to the xPico WiFi's serial interface, which listens on TCP 10001 by default and get bidirectional communication through the serial interface.


I've submitted a request to populate the Router and DNS fields from the xPico WiFi's Soft AP DHCP server in a future version of firmware.


We also request that Apple provide an option in a future version of iOS to revert to the iOS 9 behavior for stand-alone WiFi devices that do not require an Internet connection.

Jan 20, 2017 10:49 AM in response to Arts Commons - pb

Hey Everyone,


I just wanted to let you all know that I solved this issue. I was having the same problem. I use my old airport extreme base station to create a closed network with no internet connection to run my Behringer X32 Rack audio console. Up until the ios 10 updates, it worked flawlessly. I too saw the "No Internet Connection" in yellow/orange and couldn't consistently connect to my board.


I took the router, plugged it into my laptop via ethernet and opened Airport Utility. Once Airport Utility recognized my router, it showed a few concerns in red/orange. I clicked each of the notifications...

the DNS, No Internet Connection and No Ethernet Connection and checked off "Ignore" from the drop down menu.


Once the router reconciled these issues with Airport Utility, I unplugged and set my router back up to my X32. My iPad now connects like it used to in ios9. NO PROBLEMS. I'm assuming that the ios devices saw no internet connection from the base station and wouldn't connect. Once the router was told that it was ok to operate without an internet connection, the devices connect with no issues.


I hope this helps all who were stuck like me.

Jan 13, 2017 4:10 PM in response to Arts Commons - pb

I was having a similar problem with the Kingston MLWG3 which is a portable network drive and WiFi router. There were two issues.

1. With iOS 10.x it will tell you "No Internet Connection" in yellow text when the network you are connected to does indeed not go out to the internet but also unlike versions prior to 9.x and prior it will not show the Wi-Fi icon in place of the wireless carrier connection type. I seems it will still use your carrier data connection type (G3, G4, LET, etc) which is actually a good thing. In 9.x and prior you could not get internet if your Wi-Fi was not connected to a network with internet. However, you will see that are connected to that network as you can see in Setting > Wi-Fi there will be a blue checkmark next to it. This should now be the absolute indication that you are connected, not the Wi-Fi icon. Since Apple changed the way this is presented in 10.x it confuses users.


2. The connection app had been cached in the iPhone's RAM or something. Even after powering up and down and force quitting (home button twice and swipe up) the app it was still cached. I had to force quitting every instance of app that was running, it seemed like 50 and some were apps I had not opened for weeks. Only then would my app that uses the local connection see my drive.


However, with the prior generation of product, the MLWG2 if I connect to it I get the Wi-Fi icon, no "No Internet Connection" in yellow text, and my apps can see the device. But if I switch over to an app that uses internet and try to access it I get a Server Not Found error you would see when your internet connection is down.

Oct 28, 2016 2:55 PM in response to LACAllen

I can confirm that adding a valid static IP, router and DNS address does make the "No Internet Connect" label go away in Settings-->Wi-Fi. Additionally, with that set, kSCNetworkFlagsReachable on IN_LINKLOCALNETNUM is true (in DHCP or without router/DNS set it is false).


However, I'm still unable to open connections (Socket, HTTP) to the router, even with the Static IP.


Did you confirm that connections were possible via Static IP/Router/DNS? Or just that iOS removed the "No Internet Connection" warning?

Nov 2, 2016 12:20 PM in response to GregTMN

I've confirmed the behavior continues in 10.1.1


Adding a valid static IP, router and DNS address does make the "No Internet Connect" label go away in Settings-->Wi-Fi. Additionally, with that set, kSCNetworkFlagsReachable on IN_LINKLOCALNETNUM is true (in DHCP or without router/DNS set it is false).


However, I'm still unable to open connections (Socket, HTTP) to the router, even with the Static IP.

Nov 2, 2016 5:50 PM in response to Arts Commons - pb

Here are the places to report bugs:


Get an account at

http://developer.apple.com/ then submit a bug report to http://bugreporter.apple.com/

Once on the bugreporter page,

-- click on New icon

-- See if you need to attach a log file or log files, clicking on Show instructions for gathering logs. Scroll down to find the area or application that matches the problem.

-- etc.


Developers:

"Submitting Bugs and Feedback

Your feedback goes a long way towards making our products even better. With Apple Bug Reporter, you can submit bug reports or request enhancements to APIs and developer tools."

https://developer.apple.com/bug-reporting/



Enterprise support:

Call enterprise support (866) 752-7753 to create a case ID number

Nov 2, 2016 12:44 PM in response to Arts Commons - pb

Hopefully you've chosen to also report or address this issue to the Apple Feedback

section most appropriate to a likely resolution; as a note, I have sent a link to this ASC

discussion and hope that someone there can look into it.


• Product Feedback

from selection of feedback links here:

https://www.apple.com/contact/


Seems like too good of a feature to not re-enable for special purposes as noted here.


Good luck & happy trails! 🙂


{PS: Note an error in post-time indicated here where local time is 11:44AM ADT

yet the time shown in ASC post suggests the time is after 7PM; Nov 2 2016.}

Dec 13, 2016 12:58 PM in response to Arts Commons - pb

I'm having the same issue with my iPhone in iOS 10.2. I'm trying to connect to a OBD-II port scanner while using my iPhone's cellular data connection for internet. This used to work by just doing a static connection where I would enter the IP Address and Subnet Mask and nothing else. But now the iPhone won't connect to the scanner's network unless I use DHCP, which cuts my iPhone off from the cellular data connection.

Oct 28, 2017 11:49 AM in response to LACAllen

That's disappointing. Just wait until there is some feature that you all of a sudden can't use, and then come back here and read your posted reply. Then tell me what you think.


I'm still hoping someone else comes up with a solution. Otherwise, we're dropping iPad's corporate-wide and moving back to Androids. We won't be a blip to Apple, but word gets around our industry pretty quickly...

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