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coxorange Author

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10.12.1 - problems after update

Hello, I just updated from 10.12 to 10.12.1.

Never before was an OS update such a catastrophe!

(BTW I updated because I was hoping the Mail attachment bug was fixed.)

Many apps which are running in the menu bar, are no longer displayed!

To be able to access them I have to close them via Activity Monitor

and then start them again. This happens always after restarting.

System Preferences no longer loads -> listed as Force Quit Application.

Preview no longer loads -> listed as Force Quit Application.

I stopped trying out more... Who knows how to fix this?

Else I could only restore my Time Machine backup (with 10.12.0), which would take at least 8 hours.

(I have a USB drive with a 10.12.0 installer too, but it doesn't allow to "downgrade"!)

iMac (Retina 5K, 27-inch, Late 2015), macOS Sierra (10.12)

Posted on Oct 25, 2016 5:39 AM

55 replies

coxorange Author

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Oct 26, 2016 3:32 AM in response to coxorange

I think the problem with the non-appearing menu bar apps is just a special case of the big problem here.

When menu bar apps get started by the system (remembered via apps' settings) for the first time after restarting, there are no dock icons which could show their endless bouncing, and there is no listing in the force-quit menu, but their processes had been started and are running, waiting to be quitted (via Activity Monitor) and re-started just the same way as the other problematic apps.

coxorange Author

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Oct 26, 2016 3:35 AM in response to coxorange

[contd] ... They just couldn't get to the point showing their icons in the menu bar.

Oct 26, 2016 3:37 AM in response to coxorange

That's correct. You can identify those processes in Activity Monitor by sorting CPU time ascending. The processes with 0.0 CPU time are the problematic ones.

Dogcow-Moof

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Oct 26, 2016 5:34 AM in response to jfc87

This is a crash of a third party app, f.lux.

You might want to check with other users on their support forum to see if anyone has seen similar issues.

Oct 26, 2016 6:11 AM in response to dwb

I tried this (several times) and it hasn't helped. In fact nothing I've tried has helped. To me, based on what others are saying in this and other threads, it looks like some major problem in 10.12.1. Many of the apps I use on a daily basis are now non-functional, which means that I am unable to get much done on this machine 😟 😟

Oct 26, 2016 6:13 AM in response to Dogcow-Moof

It's not just f.lux, it's also Launchbar, Default Folder X and probably others that I haven't gotten to yet. From time to time it's even system Preferences that won't start up.

qumaciel

Level 1

4 points

Oct 26, 2016 6:17 AM in response to coxorange

I'm also having problems, especially with Safari.

I'm getting Safari Networking process at 100% CPU all the time!

MDangerH

Level 1

11 points

Oct 26, 2016 7:09 AM in response to coxorange

I had the same issue. This solved it:

Reset the System Management Controller (SMC) on your Mac

Oct 26, 2016 7:28 AM in response to MDangerH

Yes! The SMC Reset is the remedy!

kritz91

Level 1

14 points

Oct 26, 2016 7:30 AM in response to MDangerH

I just tried to do the SMC reset, sadly I'm still having the same issues.

Is there any way know if the SMC was actually reset? For the iMac I simply had to unplug the power cable and wait for a few seconds, then turn it back on. It may have reset the SMC, but as I said, the problem persists.

PRAM reset also didn't work. 😟

coxorange Author

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98 points

Oct 26, 2016 7:33 AM in response to Dogcow-Moof

William Kucharski wrote:

This is a crash of a third party app, f.lux.

I will try de-activating f.lux soon.

BTW Where does this info come from? Who claims f.lux is the culprit?

In 10.12.0 it was no problem at all.

Oct 26, 2016 7:40 AM in response to Kurt J. Meyer

Jubilated too early, because one of my menu bar items loaded this time, and it looked OK at first glance.

But indeed still no remedy. Still the same problem of the application "false start". Still the only help is force quit the apps and restart them. That helps until the next restart of your Mac.

coxorange Author

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98 points

Oct 26, 2016 10:17 AM in response to coxorange

I found the solution: Hands Off! was the culprit.

I removed it and all is well.

(It wasn't in my EtreCheck report, because I had to create the report

on my second, identical Mac where only Hands Off! was not running!!!)

BTW F.lux is still working perfectly here.

lemppari

Level 1

9 points

Oct 26, 2016 11:02 AM in response to coxorange

Thanks! That did the trick for me too. I suspected it already yesterday and disabled the rules but that didn't have any effect. But completely removing it fixed the problem.

kritz91

Level 1

14 points

Oct 26, 2016 11:14 AM in response to coxorange

Thank you so very much - uninstalling HandsOff! also fixed the issue completely. I disabled all rules yesterday and that didn't have any effect, so I thought HandsOff! was not part of the problem.

Again, thanks so much!

10.12.1 - problems after update