iOS 10.1 Battery drain

so, what you all think? After switching off at 26% again, i overcharged it again, after reaching 100% i left in on the charge for another 1-2 hour(s). Took it off the charger yesterday 12PM, today 9AM still at 100%, while i listened to music and browsed some facebook on safari. Is this a normal behavior frommy battery-failured, logicboard-broken phone? Anyone else with such symptoms?

Belisarius, please, do you NOT answer, i'm not fancy reading your incompetent guessings, nor hypocritical or lectural sayings. We can chat about Hungary, Budapest, anything else.

"You are good, I dropped it twice days before Do you think the battery shook or bent a bit" Aha, you did not do physics! Some say 2000 G, on tiles from 4 feet. A good site here, I took the pic

http://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/173244/the-g-force-of-common-objects- hitting-the-floor With 3D rotation, a case, I can see it being hundreds or just 50Gs. even inside a case, it will bend and regain shape, naked eye cannot see that. Now imagine that was the battery corner, the battery bends. I would feel lucky if it worked a few more months after.

This is why no one reinserts the same battery, once technicians peel it out, they bend like chocolate as you wrote, it can never be trusted again. I think Apple always puts in a new one- was told that once. Apple and all makers tell you how they test drops. But of course a 5 or SE will not bend like a 6/ Plus , and accidental drops are drops. Maybe in your case the drop accelerated its age effect, we cannot generalize that every single issue here is caused by user dropping his phone on tiles. But every single drop, even on carpet, does beat up a circuit, see the pic, and why a case helps immeasurably. A trick I learned is to kick it. If it falls, bu kicking it I give the phone a horizontal vector so then it glides safely on a floor.

Case, umm, i do not think they will let me post recommendations, but any High G load military rated case, they come in lots of colors and varying degrees of cuteness.

Sam, every installation repings, retests and recertifies your iPhones' specs. Add to it firmware. The actual installation stresses it, demands tons of power, follows with indexing, sportlight etc. My 6 month old iphone 5 battery failed me when installing iOS 7. Two days later, new battery, issue gone. At the time I also went on macworld forums, the same issues had happened to some, few owners with 4, 4S, or Android out there. A new OS install, whether 9.3.5 or 10 or 11, will repeat the process. And then, all these iOSes have the same core architecture. The 6S recall issues started summertime with iOS... 9; iOS 10 was announced as having new battery tools. Any OS parameters to protect electronics are programmable, but it takes a circuit problem to trigger the shorts. Similarly, you can unprogram shutdowns, but then the owner may just complain of rapid drain below 40%. Still out of spec, and quite dangerous.

In this other pic, also taken Nov 2016, had just read on 10 issues, note erratic App measurement readings from 92% health, to 99%. iOS 9.3.5. If the Apps are correct, like the first pic i posted, Aug 2016 iPhone 6S should have a failing battery Sep to Nov 2017, below 75%. It will not pass the iOS 11 install. Would be easy to speculate or correlate iOS 11 with drain, but not the case. I have Apple Care until 2018 so they will replace it. Point is, with iOS 9.3.5, my 6S was headed for a similar premature battery demise, 12-14 months range, same as yours, before upgrading to 10.2. It is below expectations. Recently provided Apple feedback recommending they spend 8 billion $ (factory, R&D, tech acquisition) to make their own Apple batteries and start a smart-power revolution. And not have batteries with missing guts like ATL with Samsung, and they supply Apple as well.

Sorry friend, I was able to recoup from cloud my iOS 9.3.5 screenshots I took last month. According to them my battery will fail 11-14 month after purchase, Sep to Nov 2017, below 500 cycles. If there was another iOS released those months, easy to correlate issues, but not related. Pics taken with iOS 9. 10 is not making it any worse, same rate of decline. Apple Care would cover it for me. If you have a chance to google recent days news, and how people are repairing them this should not surprise you.

Yesterday Unexpected shut down at 40%.

I charge all night and monitor battery percentage.

Look how fast it drop and the drastiscal drop at the end(25-15%, 15-10%, 10-5% & 5-2%)

Also check the battery percentage drastic rising during charging (10-42%)

From 100-80&, facebook browsing.

From 80-0%, no app running background. Only status app running with screen on and flashlight on.

At 75% i press on clearmemory then it drop of about 20% usage.

I also attach memory info screen.

I also attach a battery log of yesterday when it shutdown around 40% .

I was talking about my 6+.

My 4 dont have battery issue. After 5 year and 726 Cycle it have 87% battery healt.

Cant't say more about my 6+ than suddenly fail simce 10.0.2

First pic is my iPhone 4.

Secomd pic is my iPhone 6+.

""Paid bots". Very possible. Nobody has that much time unless it's thier job." You are correct, I am paid. I am paid a high income- full income- to stay home, supposedly am sufficiently smart to have a paid degree by my employer, to study plus recoup from a surgery (hence crutches in the picture); Side by side with academic software and research, I also get emails the fabrications you come up with.

Speaking of fabrications, the odds of my working for Apple are quite less than yours working for some Android competitor seeking to undermine consumer confidence in Apple, or intoxicate people with speculation or bad idea- such as your 3d party 20$ battery which may, hope not, fry your phone one day. At this point, the forum has so much visibility that if you keep doing what you are doing, violating the terms of use, etc, they will just suspend you.

" I was talking about my 6+. My 4 dont have battery issue. After 5 year and 726 Cycle it have 87% battery healt. Cant't say more about my 6+ than suddenly fail simce 10.0.2" Alain, demande a n'importe qui a Politechnique, Centre Reparation Apple Montreal, Pointe-Claire, Trois-Rivieres, Quebec ou Chicoutimi- meme reponse. Comparing a 5 with a 6 is not a good example. We just replaced the Gf's iPhone 5 battery. Genius Bar found it with OVER 1200 cycles. 68% health. No drain or issues with it- just inconsistent GUI response. Then take my 6S- it will fail this Sep-October, one year old, and I might get shutdowns too. It works greatly, just declining, and this started with iOS 9.3.5,d ay 1. A long cry from my 4 or iP5, 2 years no issues until trading in for this 6S. I provided Apple feedback, and Apple Care will cover my faulty battery when it fails in a few months.

The Genius Bar tech reaffirmed the obvious, that they have shutdown as long as he has worked at the store, and are rare- but why they carry spare batteries. Lots of them. Also it is not an iOS thing; even if an iOS rolls new parameters, it takes a decaying or out of spec hardware to trigger the shutdowns. There may be correlation, not causation. This is why I know no one with the issue- even the Gf's coworker whom i helped, I never met. But search online, you will find shutdown forums going all the way to the iP4 in 2011. he also gave me pics of the replaced battery, it had swollen on one side, but my GF's experience is abnormal, 3 years 1200 cycles, not the norm. I can only wish my next battery will do the same on 6S.

Also, you got no one here with iPhone SE, not is there an iPad issue. Different built. Anyways, follow support center. The good news, unlike November and conflicting user experience, store staffs are now consistent with their resolution steps.

her iPhone is super zippy now, like a new iP5, iOS 10.2.1.

Gf's iP5, before and after. Can confirm that her iphone, even if still downloading iCloud clean install, is new-like zippy, iOS 10.2.1. The very age of her former swollen battery, no drains, no shutdowns, enough to explain the device sluggish GUI. iMessages no longer freeze, nor does the iMail. My iP 6S experience is different- blazing fast phone, no drain, 1.5 days per charge, 100+ cycles, battery scheduled to fail this fall, one year mark.

Oui, exactement. This new phone, I took the screenshots with iOS 9.3.5 before updating to iOS 10, just to compare, and will do the same before iOS 11. Why? because years ago when I got iOS 7 the iPhone 5 battery failed the same day, 6 months old. Same symptoms- drains- sudden shutdown. Joined this forum then, iOS 7 drain. Apple Care replaced it, and that iP5 lasted 2+ years, traded for this iP 6S. Eventually, I learned about the safety shutdown mechanism.

You will also note, same phone, different max capacity- 1582 and 1602. So erratic reporting, iOS 9. When it fails, it will do so around 450 cycles. The only conclusion I can have is that this battery is subpar with Apple expectations of 80%/500 cycles. I manage expectations,these larger iPhone batteries are less secure as inside an 5/SE, iPad (1000 cycles) or Macbook Pro (1000 cycles), and I dropped my 6S a few times on hard surfaces.

I experimented with ipsw. iTunes, will not allow any 9, pass the Sep 16 official date by Apple. And you cannot roll back 9.3.5 to 1 as the moment you plug in, it will only offer a 10 update.

"I now have it clear. The batteries fitted in iPhones are poor quality and iOS 10 pushed a lot of them over the edge." Definitely those of affected users are. Check two pages ago, I got my 9.3.5 screenshots, which I thought lost, just for you. So without your particular experiment, after 3 months of low usage, and a few days of watching TV, it was decaying rapidly for a 1 yr mark failure. Am also getting erratin max mAh figures- unlike GF's 5- and at 3 months/iOS 9.3.5.

Perhaps iOS 10 is meant to be safer, and keep the phone off if a battery reaches an unsafe wear and tear parameter (Apple mentioned around the recall- to protect electronics). But would it have no been nicer a notification setting "Warning- Defective Battery?", so no affected user spends so much time wondering and troubleshooting?

My GF wanted a new iPhone 7, quite badly, But because of these uncertainties surrounding a 1100$ + tax purchase, and my own 6S, convinced her instead to replace her iP5 battery at the Genius Bar and wait next model, or see what comes out of these issues.

Malanthius, I do not understand why you launch speculation snowballs (perhaps to provoke people?), but here are facts. Safety shutdowns have been built since the very first analog mobile phone. Today, all smartphones have multiple levels: from a dozen sensors on the battery alone, to the logic-board, or, take computers and phones, advanced BIOS monitoring. Then, programming can tweak response parameters. In fact, everyone here has benefitted from iPhone circuit shutdowns. In the pics below- temperature related. If you wish to learn more, read a basic patent https://www.google.ch/patents/US20110101866Then you have voltage, amperage, short-circuit shutdowns as well, CPU/GPU voltage. All controlled by real resistors and capacitors. I have read your posts, you have no issues learning, so what gives?

That is why I recommended the girl to skip iP 7, and we replaced her 5 battery. The Gold 7 she wanted is over 1100$, plus 160$ Apple Care. She plans on keeping it 3-4 years, thus one battery outside Apple care, 120$. Total 1380$ + tx with such concerns, a MBP price! Check Adrian, my 6S is down to 92-93%, 126 cycles. All I did is one 100-0 cycle, dropped another 2%. Also, from 7% to shutdown it took a good 5 hours even surfing. As for your experiment, TV/youtube loops below 30% also accelerate degradation.

What a coincidence!

Since iOS10, no more battery cycle indication!

I'm curious to compare...

My 2 year old iP6+ battery cycle with 28% battery wear level

Vs

My 5 year old iP4, 726 battery cycle with 13% battery wear level...

But result will be higher than it should be on the iP6+ because before iOS10 I was able to have 2 day autonomy. Now my iP6+ is a charger cable junky! I have to charge 2-3 time a day...

Now I lose almost 1%\minute with only the flashlight on with no app running... (but lucky on that cycle, no unexpected shutdown...)

And here my 5 year old iPad3 battery health. 80% after 5 loyal years

And still ask me to update to iOS9.3.5!

Yeah right!

https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7246643?tstart=0

I love my lightning fast iOS8.4.1...