iOS 10.1 Battery drain

New IOS just came out so i once again stupidly updated.

Long time followers of this forum might know that I was one of the many who's battery was affected by the update. I was also one of the people who replaced their battery for around £70 because of my dependence on my phone and the extent of the battery problem (couldn't wait for a new update which fixed the problem).

Basically, i got the battery replaced from an official store and my phone was back to normal again. Today, I updated to the new IOS and my phone has shut down twice at around 40%. The new battery probably has around 10 charge cycles so there is no way you could blame a degraded battery. Because i got this from the official store, I am able to get a free battery replacement. Just wanted to keep the forum updated that the problem still persists.

Thank you for sharing this.

I hope Apple will find a solution, even if someone here will point out that you had your issue fixed after replacing your battery, so it's definitely not a software problem.

The fact that you're still having the issue now is clearly due to some hardware damage; probably what broke your previous battery also damaged some circuitry in your phone. Maybe a solar flare or excessive exposition to gamma rays, I don't know. Do your skin tend to become green when you get angry? XD

Sorry that my english is not so strong as yours, i sometimes swap words, but this can happen, if you actively use 4 languages, especially, when you use more complex languages like hungarian or polish. But! You are now riding on my words, and twisting them to your will, and to your point of view, but ommiting their real meaning, and the real problem. The 'perfect' was according to battery tester apps' results, 3 of them. According to a lifetime, which was stated by you, eg.: 24-48 hours. This is what i meant by 'perfect'. By now i am at 72% of my battery with 12 hours standby, and 2 hours of usage, all this after an 'overcharge' (i left my phone at 100% for like another 1 hour). I told you many times, that there is no massive drain, but you still say yours. Yes, i am a parrot also, but what else i could do, when you do not understand something that was told you at least 3 times? Most of the people are not engineers, they don't care about battery-production hocus-pocus, they want to have a flawlessly working phone for their dollar-hundreds, and probably their do not want to read the same story every day.

You are still not answering my questions or anomalies, just keep saying: 'swap the battery'. You are taking in consideration everything, but the iOS, which you are defending like your life was depending on it. Everything! Bad wiring, dropping, chemtrail, i just miss crab people... Why?

You say, perfect does not exist in engineering. What makes you think, that this is not involving the iOS, which was probably design, and written by engineers??

Writing in your example: you have a car, which was working normally (ommiting the word 'PERFECT', because you will only see and answer this one), and i know that thi is not yet available, but in the future it will be surely. So, your cars gets updated through wifi, getting a new OS. And your battery starts to acting strangely, fast draining, stopping the car, not charging fast enoguh, etc. You buy a new battery for your car, not branded Mercedes/Opel/Chevy, 'just' a Varta. And after 3-4 months, and a newer update you discover, that it is emptying quickly, or something is draining it fastly. Your mechanic doesn't even take a look, just says on the phone, that the battery is failing, buy a branded one. You don't even take into consideration, that maybe your alternator failed? Or the OS-update tricked something? Would you believe him? What if you change the battery, but the problem persists? You buy another battery, right? Oh yeah, i know the answers...

I too am sorry to hear of your experience.

Today I visited the Genius Bar at a local Apple Store in Southern California. I came equipped with data regarding my experiences with my iPhone 6 Plus as well as my older iPhone 5, now functioning as an iPod Touch. I had used a high quality app on my iMac to track my iPhone 6 Plus' performance and had kept notes of the phone's drainage issues. The Apple representative seemed knowledgeable and was very pleasant. He tested my iPhone 6 Plus battery and informed me that the battery did not respond with health reading. Since I was still covered under AppleCare, he offered to replace the battery at no charge. I agreed. But since the Store was out of replacement batteries, he offered to provide me with a new, replacement iPhone 6 Plus, which he did. I was very appreciative.

I have now charged the new phone and restored the prior phone's data from iTunes. I had to download iOS 10.2.1 in order to restore the data. I will continue to monitor the phone, including using the battery app on my iMac (which the Apple representative acknowledged was a useful tool).

I discussed with the Apple representative the causes of this battery drainage problem, sharing with him my belief that (1) the software played a significant role given the sudden emergence of the problem immediately upon downloading the iOS 10.1.1, but not before, but that (2) the state of the phone's battery was not irrelevant and was also a contributing factor. Not surprisingly, he shared Apple's position that the battery drainage problems relating to the downloading of iOS 10.1 and subsequent updates, are battery and not software caused. But he did not offer an explanation as to why the problems materialized almost immediately after the downloading when the affected iPhones had worked smoothly a day or so before under the previous iOS, other than to indicate that Apple was able to monitor many variables.

Because you too had your battery replaced but are again experiencing battery drainage problems using the latest iOS update, I will proceed cautiously but hopeful that the new iPhone 6 Plus operates smoothly. It is too soon for me to reach any conclusions.

For others, I urge you to keep notes of your experiences and try to measure iPhone capacity over time. That Forbes Magazine continues to cover this story suggests that it may not easily or quickly go away.

Finally, I am hopeful that no one distorts what I have written here. Unfortunately, that was not the case with my last post but that should surprise none of us here!

read bluejay's comment? I will try to explain it more, mathematically.

P1. Phone experiencing a mystery shutdown - Fail

P2. You attempted normal troubleshooting- Fail

P3. Attempted reset software control- Fail

P4. Attempted Apple diagnostics and Sr level support- Fail and Fail

P5. Installed several iOS versions- Fail

P6. Majority of shutdowns causes in an electrical circuit are a circuit failure or circuit breaker

P7. Apple's own view of them as "can occur under normal conditions in order for the iPhone to protect its electronics."

P8. Hundreds of millions of iPhone iOS 10 users out there have neither drainage, shutdowns nor a combination of both.

C. Genya likely has a hardware, electric issue.

This is what they call a deductive, convergent argument. Bullet proof. Being a bit like Tony Stark, cuter but without the fortune, can process tons of bits in seconds, scientific method for hundreds of years, and yes, in Hungarian, Polish, the five languages I can speak or understand. Even if you take Apple news/statements or bluejay's redacting of there being an iPhone 6 battery shortage, or it starting with iOS 10, to alter the argument you have to change a Fail to Pass, particularly P1 to 5. Cannot alter P6, 7 and 8, they are Independent Variables, facts.Yes it could be something else than the battery, but it is the cheap risk free option, versus the logicboard is the issue. You could come back and repeat that the battery is perfect, but battery amperage retention, or health, is irrelevant to the premises or electrical/hardware issues. You can have a health battery shorting internally, dropping voltage, activating a CB, or a shorting circuit. Of course I wish a code fixes it, but, as you read above, you have had multiple levels of iOS versions and troubleshooting which failed.

You just had paikinator yesterday come back to reiterate that installation exposed his weak battery. His Sr Apple advisor explained how calibration is known to flush marginal batteries. I also repeated that it is a normal electrical engineering fact: installations and calibration, firmware sets will re-ping and seek to re-evaluate battery health, and I think Apple's far more advanced than Samsung - whom Monday admitted lacking in that area. The whole process is an electrical stress. And you have your own advisor, whom does not know myself, paikinator, nor his Sr Sdvisor, in a totally different city or country, saying the same thing.

The issue really is how you process what is begin told by science and multiple sources. You argue in field you have no formal training or you would have concurred immediately.

and you are still not giving a duck about what i said previously 😀 please read before you only spit out words that come to your mind without any logic! Where did i write, that i had multiple versions of ios? AFAIR my problem started as everyone else's, with 10.1, then continued with 10.2 This is what you call multiple? Nice 😀

And great! Now that not the battery, i have logicboard failing 😀 Jesus Christ, do you believe all the bullsh*t you are typing? Once again, like a parrot to a stubborn kid: no problems with my phone, only the same, as the others have. Oh, wait, surely they all were playing volleyball with their phone, so their must have a failed logicboard.

Yep, there are like 12 people here who changed their battery, and now everything is cool, the rainbow-pooping unicorns are flying around, the **** has frozen. Maybe the replaced "new" battery could be re-set to 0%, so it is not shutting down. But this is not a fix. Read around other forums, there is life outside apple as well.

What about the guy who updated after installing a brand new battery, and still has the problem? Oh, you surely don't see that, that would go against your "professional opinion", and you cannot face such a shame, i get it.

Also i did not read anything regarding my overcharged battery, which lasts ~6 hours before is starts to show any drain from 100%. Wait, logicboard, and of course chemtrails!

No, you don't have to answer, i know all your 2-bit answers already (battery-logicboard), you are stubborn, not helpful at all, not giving any attention to anyone, just typing sh*t. There is no point of writing down anything, that my battery is new, that i am not playing footbal with my phone, that there were no problems before ios10, that i am not using battery draining apps, because you simply don't care at all. You just take out words, and trying to twist them, so you can talk about everything that is not related to the original question. Aren't you a politician by any chance?

Just finished school now and I'm left with http://imgur.com/4K899BO

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I think this is a battery issue even though Apple diagnostics and my battery life apps says my battery is in fine condition. So I might as well replace the battery and see my results improve. But my iPhone hasn't had any unexpected shutdowns from 50% now which is good.

Am unsure if your are so blind by anger and range not realize what writing. "Where did i write, that i had multiple versions of ios? AFAIR my problem started as everyone else's, with 10.1, then continued with 10.2 This is what you call multiple? Nice" You just did. Not only is each version an iOS version, but as some where removed, the ensuing version was a totally new install. From 10 to 10.2.1 you have SIX iOS versions. Capici?

still bullsh*tting? 😀 my only anger is toward your 2-bit "problem solving" attitude. I wrote 10.1 and 10.2 ! That's 2 versions for me, no matter how many times did i reinstall. When 10 came out i was wise enough not to update, but as far as i remember the problems started back then.

And yeah, 20 not 12! HURRAY! Open the champagne bottles! Read all the rest i wrote you, you will spare yourself some idiotic answers, capisci?😉

No one here is disputing when your problem starting. But, there is little I can do to explain that, although iOS 10 is a major new release, the vast majority of code is the same several iOSes going back. like WINDOWS 10 sharing architecture with 8. 10 also shares the same architecture with 9, and that is why it can be rolled out on iPhone 5. Same for Ubuntu Linux version. What you call an iOS is a few new features sharing the same x64 bits architecture your 9, same Hybrid (XNU) with Cocoa GUI as your 9. Nothing radical changed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IOS From the technical standpoint, you reinstalled iOS 9 architecture with the new 10 additions. One new thing, as Apple told us, more advanced battery measurement tools. Take your hint.

Not politician. U-grad studies history, international relations. Grad, international security. College: astrophysics, physics, electrical science. Three years of it. Decorated soldier, elite athlete and, if inclined to believe my gf, possibly very cute.

btw, you wrote "more advanced battery measurement tools". I know now everything 😉 it is again not your problem, just an info: wanted to switch to i6s this summer, switching to Android, in this case you helped a lot for me, as well as other people

Hopefully, we're not testing meds here, because otherwise we would be like "Hey, this new med works wonders on TWELVE people! Great! Let's distribute it to mass market" -_-

It's not the 20 people here that get the problem solved we should be happy about; it's the hundreds of people not on this forum giving a **** about what's happening and just throwing their phone away and buying another brand that should worry Apple and make them say something about this issue.

oh and one last: my question regarding your political beeing was again a (looky here, i know you like twisting out words just to avoid answering to real problems:) RHETORICAL question. My problem is, that you answer everything, that is not related to the original problem, and i think no one wants to know, how cute you are (according to your gf's words)

"switching to Android" So ok, not everyone follows trends, too easy, At times I absorb a book's worth of info in very few hours, just glancing, and remember it for years. Take this http://gadgets.ndtv.com/mobiles/news/some-google-pixel-users-reporting-early-bat tery-shutdown-issues-1642806 This phone, touted by another user, is already getting its shutdown forum pages- and multiple forum locations- and am not sure it has yet sold a million. This is bad!

Have you also read Samsung's report? It is incredibly honest. Not only did they shortcut battery development, they also shortcut internal phone safety controls. Two of its manufacturers are to blame, similar design flaws. The Samsung engineers did nothing more. Those makers supply batteries to many Android makers. And given the lower price point for Android BOM devices, I am afraid that the 300+ million google hits for Android phone problems are well justified by honest users as yourself. There is probably dozens of Android makers cheating on battery development. In retrospect, we had a few dozen people with issues here, most whom gradually resolved it. Android devices get fires., and the #1 Android maker admits putting batteries which also burned people's cars. Personally I feel good knowing that if I accidentally leave my iPhone in my sports car, it will not just catch fire randomly. I wish Apple batteries were less expensive, or lasted 1000 cycles, but you have to take myself and others to their word when telling that, from a design standpoint, they are sophisticated and well engineered.