Pain in fingers from new MBP keyboard?

TLTR: I think I have developed RSI from the new MBP's keyboard. Is it just me? Tips on how to reduce pain?


I started using the new MacBook Pro 13 about a month ago and use it professionally a lot - around 10-12 hours a day. I type a lot (currently writing up my PhD thesis and doing some coding for a project in my spare time).

Over the last weeks I have developed pain in my finger tips an joints (in particular the right index finger) and I believe it must be from the new MacBook Pro's keyboard. I believe so because nothing else has changed in my work routine and I have previously worked with a MacBook Pro from 2011. The new keyboard has reduced travel distance and it feels more like typing on an iPad with ten fingers for 12 hours a day than it does on a traditional keyboard.


The pain goes so far that I don't want to work anymore (since I cannot work without typing). I also have pain when I use my iPhone, for example. After a bit of research I believe I could have developed repetitive strain injury (but I'm no doctor).


I developed a few workarounds to relieve the constant stress on my fingers: I hooked up an external keyboard (Apple's bluetooth keyboard) and started using my old MacBook when I am home. This has helped and the stress on my fingers seemed to have gotten reduced.


Is anyone else having a similar problem? Do you have advice on how to reduce the pain?

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Posted on Dec 21, 2016 6:44 AM

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Posted on Oct 13, 2017 3:26 PM

If doing any activity with any particular device causes you pain, you should stop using the device involved AND do not ignore it and go see your doctor as well. 'Going to the doctor' is not intended as a solution -- it is just common sense advice from folks here who are other Users like you, Not Apple employees, who have broad general experience, and want you to NOT ignore body pain and DO take care of yourself, including getting a professional evaluation for anything that causes you pain.


In the meantime, get a USB keyboard or a Bluetooth keyboard that has a better "feel" and suits you better, and place it at an ergonomic height so your wrists are in a Neutral position when typing. The frequent breaks to snap and move around (and stop tying for a few minutes). Get a Fitbit or an App that can remind you to move.


Try firing up dictation and see if it can work for some of what you need to do.


The feedback link has already been posted above.


If you initiate a class action suit, all it does is enrich the lawyers involved, and the Big Companies involved will respond by putting a warning sticker on the offending device.

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Sep 29, 2017 10:21 AM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

I appreciate the suggestions provided to help mitigate my symptoms. There are several workarounds that I can utilize to alleviate the discomfort I’m experiencing (the USB connected “old school” keyboard is working out pretty well so far… time will tell).


Leaving my physical symptoms aside, the primary reason I posted here was to add my voice and experience to the thread in hopes of raising awareness of the potential drawbacks of Apple’s current laptop keyboard design. I use the word “potential” fully acknowledging that I have no proof at this point in time that my symptoms are directly linked to using the new keyboard or not. It is a hypothesis of mine (and some of the others who have posted here), one that I feel would be of interest for Apple engineers to investigate further. With their stated aim towards continually improving design for future iterations, Apple may well have been caught “off guard” in this instance, not realizing that their focus on typing efficiency and reduced cover “latch” clearance, might lead to unintended ramifications leading to repetitive strain? By studying the phenomenon further and establishing quantifiable metrics that would prove or disprove our hypothesis, Apple would then have the data it needs to work on a redesign, or disregard the issue entirely.

Nov 22, 2017 7:28 PM in response to Marcall

Marcall wrote:


I use a simple EMF detector app on my iphone. It may not be 100% accurate but it goes from a reading of 45 to over 4000 when I put it near certain parts of my macbook keyboard.

45 to 4000 what? What is the scientific evidence that there is a causal relationship between EMF radiation and hand pain? The information I'm able to find indicates an extremely low likelihood of such a relationship (see PMIDs 28900736, 15784787 and 16520326 as examples). Rather than self-diagnose based on an iPhone app, take Grant's advice and see a doctor.

Nov 23, 2017 8:15 AM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

Thanks Grant, I will do some research on the Carpal Tunnel info but it really seems like its the trackpad. I may be wrong and appreciate your input. Obviously, I am not the only person who is having a similar problem and my purpose in responding was to let the original poster know that others are experiencing the same problem. I think it is important to remain open to different possibilities.


Nov 23, 2017 8:31 AM in response to IdrisSeabright

IdrisSeaBright,


Thanks for your response and advice. The measurement was 4000+ uT.


There was no proven evidence years ago that cigarettes were bad for you either. So I don't always go by proven scientific studies. I go with my experience.


Personally, I keep these devices a foot or so from my body when possible and use a wired headset when I am on a call on my iPhone if its any more than a couple of minutes. I also find long-term use of my new MacBook really hurts my eyes, which I didn't experience on my previous Apple laptop. It is a real shame as I really love the new machine.


I think if there is a problem with these devices, Apple needs to have feedback.


I don't expect or want you to have the same view. The purpose of my post was to share my experience which backs up that of the original poster.


Nov 23, 2017 7:07 PM in response to Marcall

Marcall wrote:



There was no proven evidence years ago that cigarettes were bad for you either. So I don't always go by proven scientific studies. I go with my experience.

Studies showing the dangers of cigarette smoking go back to about 1600.


Self-diagnoses based on preconceived notions could cause you not to get the medical help you really need. But, they're your hands.


Best of luck.

Nov 27, 2017 2:39 PM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

Well Grant, I don't know much about physics but I know that there are an awful lot of people affected by this. There are hundreds of posts online about it and there is clearly a problem.


Another interesting post on the Apple boards indicating how widespread this problem is.Hands go numb, tingle from trackpad


Hopefully, Apple are not in denial, or hiding something and come up with a solution soon.





Nov 27, 2017 4:24 PM in response to Marcall

I think you are putting the blame in the wrong place. It is not Apple's responsibility to adapt to your personal issue. If you were to suffer from ankle discomfort because of the force necessary or the position of your car accelerator would you expect Ford or GM to redesign their cars because you have discomfort while millions of other drivers do not suffer discomfort? If a product causes you discomfort, stop using the product and get a product designed more to your needs.

The link you provided refers to a similar thread started in 2012 so don't hold your breath while waiting for "Apple sort out this problem before many people have injuries.".

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