Pain in fingers from new MBP keyboard?

TLTR: I think I have developed RSI from the new MBP's keyboard. Is it just me? Tips on how to reduce pain?


I started using the new MacBook Pro 13 about a month ago and use it professionally a lot - around 10-12 hours a day. I type a lot (currently writing up my PhD thesis and doing some coding for a project in my spare time).

Over the last weeks I have developed pain in my finger tips an joints (in particular the right index finger) and I believe it must be from the new MacBook Pro's keyboard. I believe so because nothing else has changed in my work routine and I have previously worked with a MacBook Pro from 2011. The new keyboard has reduced travel distance and it feels more like typing on an iPad with ten fingers for 12 hours a day than it does on a traditional keyboard.


The pain goes so far that I don't want to work anymore (since I cannot work without typing). I also have pain when I use my iPhone, for example. After a bit of research I believe I could have developed repetitive strain injury (but I'm no doctor).


I developed a few workarounds to relieve the constant stress on my fingers: I hooked up an external keyboard (Apple's bluetooth keyboard) and started using my old MacBook when I am home. This has helped and the stress on my fingers seemed to have gotten reduced.


Is anyone else having a similar problem? Do you have advice on how to reduce the pain?

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Posted on Dec 21, 2016 6:44 AM

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Posted on Oct 13, 2017 3:26 PM

If doing any activity with any particular device causes you pain, you should stop using the device involved AND do not ignore it and go see your doctor as well. 'Going to the doctor' is not intended as a solution -- it is just common sense advice from folks here who are other Users like you, Not Apple employees, who have broad general experience, and want you to NOT ignore body pain and DO take care of yourself, including getting a professional evaluation for anything that causes you pain.


In the meantime, get a USB keyboard or a Bluetooth keyboard that has a better "feel" and suits you better, and place it at an ergonomic height so your wrists are in a Neutral position when typing. The frequent breaks to snap and move around (and stop tying for a few minutes). Get a Fitbit or an App that can remind you to move.


Try firing up dictation and see if it can work for some of what you need to do.


The feedback link has already been posted above.


If you initiate a class action suit, all it does is enrich the lawyers involved, and the Big Companies involved will respond by putting a warning sticker on the offending device.

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Aug 9, 2017 9:20 AM in response to createausernameplease

this is happening to me as well.


while i know some of you are trying to be helpful, please stop responding to this issue with 'see a dr'. or 'ergonomics'! this has nothing to do with either.


im a computer programmer. im on a computer 50 hours a week. 3 days into my 2017 macbook pro the pad of my index finder is painful. if i switch back to a standard keyboard it doesnt hurt.


obviously when you have less travel in a keyboard its going absorb less shock. and that shock is going to go into your finger instead. its physics.


try typing on a table as if it were your keyboard. your fingers will all start hurting. this is just slightly more comfortable than typing on a table surface.

Oct 13, 2017 8:16 PM in response to brikolore

The MacBook and MacBook Pro notebook computers are designed to be lightweight, and so portable, they can run on batteries. Additional features are nice, but secondary.


That includes keyboard travel, feel, and comfort for extended use. There is no warranty that says that keyboard is suitable for extended use.


I expect that for extended use, you need at least a keyboard that can be moved around for ergonomic placement of your arms, wrists, and hands.

Nov 21, 2017 6:46 AM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

It isn't nonsense if it is the platform your employer purchases for you and tells you that you have to use. Not everyone is buying these themselves for personal use ...


I am on a 2015 vintage MBP, it replaced a Lenovo W530 ... I love the retina display and trackpad, so I moved my MBP in a position that allowed me to use these with my additional monitors. It's OK ... I can feel the metal edge cut in my wrists after a while, but if I take a break ... it works. Anyone new in my area is getting the new 4th gen MBP's. They cannot replicate my setup ... unanimously they are declaring the keyboard too painful.


We have given feedback to Apple, hopefully they listen ... I work in an industry that we have found if you don't listen to your customers, you are history ...

Oct 13, 2017 9:43 AM in response to createausernameplease

Yes! I am a developer and I have experienced the same thing. I just typed my symptoms in the search engine and I am relieved to find that I am not the only one! It's terrible!!! I spend 10 to 12 hours on the computer everyday and now I am completely dreading it. Ugh! Horrible. I got a wrist wrest and a palm rest to ensure that I am typing effectively.. Truly, I have done all that I can to help myself in this matter. I try to type ever so lightly and the action is great. But, the pain is increasing and is terrible. I hate it.

Nov 21, 2017 7:10 AM in response to LNfromRoch

Good for you to take steps to eliminate your pain and take care of yourself!


Employers who dictate what keyboards their employees use and do not allow substitutions open themselves to lawsuits for repetitive strain injury and lost work time to their employees. This is not a trivial risk.


(an external keyboard can be had for under US$100)


We have given feedback to Apple, hopefully they listen ... I work in an industry that we have found if you don't listen to your customers, you are history ...

They do, but not on the forums. You need to leaves your suggestions here:


Product Feedback - Apple

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Nov 22, 2017 2:30 PM in response to createausernameplease

I have a similar problem with my new MacBook. It is painful to use after a short period but for me the problem is the trackpad rather than the keyboard. It feels like there is an electrical current which is running through my fingers which causes numbness, tingling and pain after a short period. Very annoying because I really like the machine. The EMF's coming off it are also really high compared my older macbook.

Obviously, I can use a mouse but it would be nice if Apple would be more mindful of health and safety with their products.

Nov 22, 2017 2:47 PM in response to Marcall

the problem is the trackpad rather than the keyboard. It feels like there is an electrical current ...

The trackpad surface of this trackpad and those used by Apple for several years now are made entirely of glass, an excellent electrical insulator. The sensations you are feeling are not caused by electrical leakage, which would have to be impossibly high (thousands of Volts) to jump across the glass.


Do not continue to use this (or ANY) trackpad. The pains you are feeling may be caused a very serious medical condition, and you should get examined by your Doctor as soon as possible.

Nov 27, 2017 10:36 AM in response to DavidMo

Thanks. I have heard about the problem with the keyboards too.


I don't do too much typing and my problem is more with the trackpad and the metallic part of the MacBook generally.


I noticed when I took my plastic cover off my iPhone, I had the same problem with that. It seems some people are very sensitive to the current coming off the devices. I have found another post where lots of people are having problems.


How can I stop trackpad from hurting/burning my fingertips?


Also, I read that using a plug that is not earthed properly can exacerbate the problem.


I think I need to get a plastic cover and a glove 🙂


Nov 28, 2017 3:49 AM in response to BobTheFisherman

Bob,


Clearly, it is not a personal issue as many people have it. Placing two fingers on my trackpad for twenty seconds causes me discomfort. I can put my fingers on any other surface for long periods of time without an issue. If I got into a new car, put my hands on the steering wheel and got an unpleasant experience from it within a minute, that is an issue with the new car.


Just because some people do not experience it, does not mean it doesn't exist. Perhaps it is only in some batches. Perhaps with some electricity supplies.


According to the law, this should not happen. It is important that people report it and it is investigated.


This post was originally about the keyboard, which is a different matter and may not be designed to be comfortable with prolonged use.


I will hop off this board and on to a board about the trackpad rather than this one out of respect for people who are on here for information about the Keyboard as per the original post. No point in wasting people's time.






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