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Extending a Wifi Network through Airport Extreme and Express

I own an AirPort Extreme and want to extend my wifi network to my second and third floor. I just purchased an Airport Express but will likely need another one as my walls are made of concrete and don't allow signal to pass very freely.


Can anyone let me know what the best plan of action is for this? Can I add multiple Airport Expresses to an already extended network? I would likely have to extend that signal off my second floor express to the third floor as it will not reach the first floor... I'm not even sure if this is doable.

Any suggestions would be great, thanks!

MacBook Pro (15-inch, Late 2016), iOS 10.2

Posted on Dec 22, 2016 7:41 AM

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Posted on Dec 22, 2016 9:41 AM

Can anyone let me know what the best plan of action is for this?

The best plan of action is always the same when you "extend" a network.....


That would be to locate each AirPort right in the middle of each area where you need more wireless signal coverage......and......connect each AirPort back to your "main" AirPort router using a wired Ethernet cable connection for each device.


If you cannot run the Ethernet cable, then powerline adapters might allow you to send a coded Ethernet signal over the existing AC powerlines in your home. The theory with these devices is that you already have the wiring in place......you just need the adapters. Unfortunately in practice, things do not always work as well as the theory suggests. And, there is no way to predict how well......or, even if.....powerline adapters will work in your home until you try them out in your home.


Any computer / electronics superstore will have a selection of powerline adapters from which to choose. Talk the salespeople there to find out which product they would recommend for your home......and then make sure that you understand the store's return policy before you buy.


The least desirable plan of action to extend a network would involve trying to use a wireless connection between AirPorts. Although it is possible to have more than one AirPort to extend the signal.....each AirPort must connect directly to the "main" AirPort in order for things to work correctly. That means that you cannot extend a network two times.....or, in other words, extend the signal again from an AirPort that is already set up to extend the network.


When you try to extend using a wireless connection, each "extender" will receive a much slower and weaker signal....and that is all that it can extend, so on average, you should expect to lose about half....or more....of the potential speed on the entire network when you extend a network using wireless connections. With cement walls and ceilings, the signal speed loss is going to be much greater, so trying to extend using wireless connections for your home is definitely not recommended.


The investment to run Ethernet cabling would be worth every penny, in my opinion.....if you can consider that option.

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Dec 22, 2016 9:41 AM in response to kcjones21

Can anyone let me know what the best plan of action is for this?

The best plan of action is always the same when you "extend" a network.....


That would be to locate each AirPort right in the middle of each area where you need more wireless signal coverage......and......connect each AirPort back to your "main" AirPort router using a wired Ethernet cable connection for each device.


If you cannot run the Ethernet cable, then powerline adapters might allow you to send a coded Ethernet signal over the existing AC powerlines in your home. The theory with these devices is that you already have the wiring in place......you just need the adapters. Unfortunately in practice, things do not always work as well as the theory suggests. And, there is no way to predict how well......or, even if.....powerline adapters will work in your home until you try them out in your home.


Any computer / electronics superstore will have a selection of powerline adapters from which to choose. Talk the salespeople there to find out which product they would recommend for your home......and then make sure that you understand the store's return policy before you buy.


The least desirable plan of action to extend a network would involve trying to use a wireless connection between AirPorts. Although it is possible to have more than one AirPort to extend the signal.....each AirPort must connect directly to the "main" AirPort in order for things to work correctly. That means that you cannot extend a network two times.....or, in other words, extend the signal again from an AirPort that is already set up to extend the network.


When you try to extend using a wireless connection, each "extender" will receive a much slower and weaker signal....and that is all that it can extend, so on average, you should expect to lose about half....or more....of the potential speed on the entire network when you extend a network using wireless connections. With cement walls and ceilings, the signal speed loss is going to be much greater, so trying to extend using wireless connections for your home is definitely not recommended.


The investment to run Ethernet cabling would be worth every penny, in my opinion.....if you can consider that option.

Dec 22, 2016 9:37 AM in response to Bob Timmons

This is great info, thanks so much!


I live in the Bahamas and unfortunately the house does not have ethernet cables running on each floor. The other unfortunate thing is that there really aren't any reliable computer/electronic stores here that carry the power line adapters you mention so I would have to purchase online and give it a go by myself. I consider myself semi educated in electronics and electronic installation, but am quite dumbfounded when it comes to wifi for the most part.


I do understand what you mean in regards to connecting wifi extenders and loosing their strength, which is what I figured. I am incorporating Sonos into my home right now and that is mostly what I need that for on the third floor. I am not even sure an express would pick up signal from my Extreme to tell you the truth so I may have to do some experimenting. Would buying a second Extreme help at all to extend rather than an Express?


Your suggestion for the power line adapters sort of flew over my head as I never heard of them, but will do some research. Thanks again!

Dec 22, 2016 9:55 AM in response to kcjones21

I live in the Bahamas and unfortunately the house does not have ethernet cables running on each floor.

It would not hurt to get an estimate from an electrician as far as installing cabling in the home. After all, you want to try to do things the right way if possible. An electrician could probably help you with powerline adapters as well.


Better to get an expert involved....the money will be well spent.


I am not even sure an express would pick up signal from my Extreme to tell you the truth so I may have to do some experimenting.

If you have a Mac or PC laptop, take it up the location on the third floor where you need wireless signal coverage. If the laptop can get a decent connection that way, then an Express might provide a stronger signal in that area.


If things are slow on the laptop when you run your "test", then they are also going to be slow if you install an AirPort Express. In other words, the Express can make the signal "stronger"....but it cannot make the signal "faster".

Would buying a second Extreme help at all to extend rather than an Express?

I doubt it, but I think that you already know that the real answer will be that you will not know until you try.

Extending a Wifi Network through Airport Extreme and Express

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