Clearing Safari website data does not delete everything - iPhone

I totally agree, that Header information is data. Even though it does not contain detailed website data, the headers themselves are data in my book. It's just that Apple has chosen not to address that, yet.

Yes, still having the issue with evercookies not deleting on all apple devices. I did find one solution, its called having a choice to use Android. Been an apple supporter for over 20 years but apple not providing a solution speaks volumes, miss you steve jobs!!

I am not worry about security. I'd like to have software that have its function work as expected, i.e., clearing all website data and history when the selection is made; and not having residual persistent data.

I do not want to install the ever increasing size (bloated) software that include added 'features' that I do not use.

Thanks for the security reminder.

Good point about the bloated iOS updates. Increasing awareness every new iOS release about how it mysteriously slows down older hardware versions of ipads and iphones, nudging to buy the new one. Not falling into that trap, even if all my devices constantly remind me daily.

jjdnow wrote:

Good point about the bloated iOS updates. Increasing awareness every new iOS release about how it mysteriously slows down older hardware versions of ipads and iphones, nudging to buy the new one.

Really? Not according to experts: https://www.futuremark.com/pressreleases/is-it-true-that-iphones-get-slower-over -time

Yes really, talking from personal experience as a long time iphone user since iPhone 4. If you read that from a MSM news source, I'd re-evaluate my sources for the truth. Better yet, conduct your own test. And yes, I have cleared the iphone(s) started from scratch before jumping to conclusions.

I HAVE conducted my own tests, and in 10 years I have never encountered an update that was slower on the phone than the previous version. My phones were an original iPhone, a 3GS, a 5S, a 6 and a 7 Plus. Every phone ran as well or better after the upgrade than before. As did my iPad 2 and my iPad Air 2.

I linked to a report from a reputable organization that did extensive tests. Apparently you did not bother to read the study I linked to. Unlike some of the population, I believe in science and the scientific method. Futuremark did extensive, repeatable, and documented testing. I consider 100,000 benchmark tests on 7 different iPhone models to be definitive.

Wow little triggered there my fellow Apple friend. Just so you know, ive been a professional using Apple computers since 1985, supporting Apple for decades. Purchased tons of apple computers, phones and tablets. No I didnt read your paid for report, I based my conclusion on real life usage and experience unlike some of the population that follows others and cant think for them selves. As for tech and science, well, thats how ive made a living for more than 2 decades Lawrence. Nice try but dening someone of their experience with the product is down right juvenile and discriminatory right? See, I was giving an opinion based on fact from my usage fair right? Did you ever think everyones usage is different? Not everyone uses the same apps? Some of my My apps my require more processing power? Not everyone has the same configuration? So many factors can slow legacy hardware on a newer OS my friend agreed? Did you go get your $1200 iphone X

it is clear we have nothing in common. I have been an engineer for 50 years. I have the courtesy to read information provided to me before commenting on it or rejecting it. As we don't seem to have any overlap in experience or world view there is no point in continuing a conversation.

Lawrence Finch wrote:

it is clear we have nothing in common. I have been an engineer for 50 years. I have the courtesy to read information provided to me before commenting on it or rejecting it. As we don't seem to have any overlap in experience or world view there is no point in continuing a conversation.

Ah, yes, it's another case of someone believing that "anecdotes equal data" while at the same time failing to take confirmation bias into account. Not to mention, "My mind is made up so don't confuse me with the facts".

jhill8 wrote:

Most solutions here are for iOS. I'm having this issue on MacOS. 2 responses mentioned mac but is there anything new to try?

Probably because this thread is in the iPhone forum. You might want to check over in the Mac forums.

jjdnow, cant speak to finchs experience of "never"having an update slow down his device. I have experienced it on EVERY ipad and iphone I have owned. I am computer savvy and have done everything to restore these devices to prior performance to know avail. *** While the hardware life of Apple products is excellent, the software update cycle drive about a two year usability window. My advice is to avoid updating your ios beyond the version it initially ships with, security be ******. Now, if Apple allowed downgrading ios this problem could be rectified. Apple is now adopting this irreversable firmware concept with OSX. My advice is to NEVER install High Sierra on an older mac computer.

I tried to respond to your post regarding persistant cookies as well, but it says unauthorized access. Apparently, I have been redflagged. I used to be an Apple "fanboy" no more. I guess its time to switch to samsung products.

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jphonak777 wrote:

You do not have to be Sherlock Holmes to know that Apple is driving sales by intentionally hobbling older devices.

But apparently you need both computer savvy and commonsense to know that's hogwash:

https://www.futuremark.com/pressreleases/is-it-true-that-iphones-get-slower-over -time

Thank you for the input, i agree with your personal experience. On another note Apple censored my post that you tried to reply to about persistent unremovable cookies I guess reaching out and speaking as a loyal Apple advocate and consumer for over 2 decades is frowned on. Lol. It speaks volumes about the truth. I love Apple products, and have invested thousands of $ in the brand for our corporation over the years. Privacy and security were 2 huge agendas for Steve Jobs back in the day. Not sure whats going on now. I will continue to use my Apple products due to my investment in them, but the future will dictate my next investments