Disappearing Markups on PDFs

As i edit PDF documents on my iPad Pro using the Markup function, i find that the markups disappear when I reopen the document to add more markups or it randomly saves some markups but not others. It's frustrating as I invest 10-15 minutes filling out a pdf form and the entire document is blank when i send it or reopen it. I tried periodically closing it and reopening, hoping it would save all work at that point, but it's random as to whether it saves the work. It would be a great feature if it worked reliably. any suggestions ?

iPad Pro Wi-Fi + Cellular, iOS 10.3.1

Posted on May 2, 2017 8:12 AM

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Posted on Jun 26, 2017 8:11 PM

Found a work around. Ran into this same issue with a PDF for an IRA application. The markup was retained on the original device (MBa) but even in iCloud Drive (on iPhone, iPad) would lose markup. Tried saving the original, marked up PDF to a new file as nameofthefile2.pdf - no luck. However, if you open with Preview and do File > Print > Select PDF > Save as PDF to create a new copy, this one retains mark up. This one I was finally able to email to another of my accounts and verify it went through. Hope it helps.

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Jun 26, 2017 8:11 PM in response to Gregory Rice

Found a work around. Ran into this same issue with a PDF for an IRA application. The markup was retained on the original device (MBa) but even in iCloud Drive (on iPhone, iPad) would lose markup. Tried saving the original, marked up PDF to a new file as nameofthefile2.pdf - no luck. However, if you open with Preview and do File > Print > Select PDF > Save as PDF to create a new copy, this one retains mark up. This one I was finally able to email to another of my accounts and verify it went through. Hope it helps.

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Dec 16, 2017 2:32 AM in response to Gregory Rice

It’s a basic principle of system (incl. app) development that no user entered information is allowed to be discarded without the confirmation of the user —at least for the last fourty years. It is fightening that this way of operation of ibooks is intentional, and not an implementation failure. It is obvous that there were no independent user test: only the developer and the architect tested the app, and the test scenario was set up according to the failed design.


I am sure that Apple will review this concept soon and this dangerous approach to user entered data will not sread to other solutions of the company, hopefully disappear from here with the next release.

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Mar 26, 2018 7:51 AM in response to Gregory Rice

Can you confirm your iOS version? (Check Settings > General > About and find the field for "Version" -- current is 11.2.6 (15D100)).


Also, when you markup the pdf, do you click the "Done" button at top right? Are you saving the PDF to "Files" or trying to send it somewhere?


I also have an issue with disappearing markup, but it happens then I try to Message or Email the marked up doc.

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Dec 28, 2017 12:14 PM in response to Gregory Rice

Hi all,

just worked on a PDF for quite some time and now all my markups are gone.

I tried to create a new PDF with visible markups without success, but I realized that the actual filesize increased from 1MB to 40MB. So I think all my markups are still somewhere...


On the good side, I was able to reproduce this problem multiple times.

Opening a PDF, creating some markups on page 1, closing it and reopening it works perfectly fine.

Multipe iterations with markups on page 1 : no problem.

But as soon as I open the PDF, create markups on page 2 and close the file, all markups on page 1 are gone after reopening the file.

I was able to reproduce this with local files, files on iCloud and files on a different server.


If someone was able to resolve this issue in the meantime using iOS 11.3, that would come in very handy.

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Jan 14, 2018 5:40 AM in response to jk371

To everyone: This happened on first version of iOS11, but was fixed in first apple ios update.

Last update before 11.2.2 files pdf annotation was unastable (closing,dissapearing when not wireless connection..) and after last update we are back to the first bug.


The others sittuation mentioned (email annotation etc) i think are solved (remember to update your computers to Sierra because in Capitan annotaions doesnt show in Preview App) , but this one is not.


So, i hope Apple actualy reads this forum because the only way to solve is in next update, and i just lost 8 months of work because this bug.


(ps: sorry for my english)

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Jan 23, 2018 1:42 PM in response to Gregory Rice

This is a frustrating activity. I created a roster using Excel spreadsheet and saved it as a PDF on OneDrive. I opened the PDF roster, and had people signing next to their name as receiving a document. Well, there are no signatures to be seen on that PDF at all. What a waste of time. I would like to use the Apple iOS 11 version of markup, but seeing all the complaints/comments/notification about this problem, I am moving back to old faithful -- Readdle's PDF Expert. I can mark that up all day long with no hiccups at all. That is what I recommend until Apple gets their act back together. Sure do miss Steve Jobs.

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May 2, 2017 8:45 AM in response to Gregory Rice

When you markup a PDF as an attachment, it's intended for filling and then sending to someone.

The attachemnt will remain as it was received, see: Use Markup in Mail on your iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch - Apple Support


If you want to markup and change a PDF to be saved with your markups, you need to make a copy of it from the attachment, and then mark up the copy.

Tap the PDF attachment in the email, tap the export button (square with arrow pointing up), then choose where you want to save the copy (import with iBooks, or Add to iCloud Drive or antoehr location of your choice.)

The markup the PDF there.

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May 2, 2017 8:35 AM in response to Saifan Pilot

in apple mail - i open the PDF attached and click on the doctor's bag icon for markup. Then i spend lots of time editing the document and close it properly - the PDF icon reverts back to the email in reply format as an attachment and either the receiver tells me there are no edits or when i reopen and re-markup the document to add edits, some or all of my previous edits are missing.

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May 2, 2017 8:50 AM in response to Saifan Pilot

i get that - i received a PDF in apple mail, i mark it up using the markup function and it stays in apple mail ready to be sent to the sender of the original PDF. I'm not trying to save anything separately. Yet when i edit the document and it is ready to send to the original sender and i reopen it to add additional markups, it loses some or all of my original markups.


do you only get one shot at marking up a document ? Am i not supposed to re-open a marked up document ?

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May 2, 2017 8:59 AM in response to Saifan Pilot

that's my point - i do see the marked up version in sent email and it's missing edits. I can see that it's missing edits when i reopen the document before i send it. No point in sending it if i can see things are missing, right? I gave up and used adobe. More reliable. Thanks for your input. Much appreciated

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Jun 8, 2017 6:30 AM in response to Gregory Rice

I recently ran across this problem trying to sign a PDF. It would not save the signature or create the return mail. I discovered this was caused by the fact that the PDF I was trying to mark up had security setting on it for read only. It was a vehicle registration that I wanted to sign and print but, because the DOT put security on it wouldn't work. Apple needs to have something pop up and tell you when a PDF has security restrictions on it. Hope this helps.

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Jan 30, 2018 7:19 PM in response to Gregory Rice

i am having a problem with whole files disappearing! I thought iBooks was maybe working again. It was allowing me to rename files (though when I went back, some changes were gone!) so I spent hours redoing my categories. I like to use iBooks for my pdf crochet patterns. Tonight I went to move a pattern from Dropbox to iBooks but not only did the pattern disappear when I opened it, so did the two patterns I had in one of my categories. Just vanished! I am so totally fed up with iBooks! It has been getting worse and worse and Apple doesn’t seem to care about fixing it. I’m off to find something comparable! I would just leave them in Dropbox, but I can’t access the files when offline.

i used to love iBooks but not anymore. Now I hate it!

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Feb 27, 2018 8:46 PM in response to georgefromvic

Thanks for the trick to get edit back - kill & restart ibooks. What a nuisance. I wonder whether at Apple there aren’t too few people working on too many projects. Sloppy implementations. Reminds me of Maps - pressure to get something out, buggy or not.

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Mar 13, 2018 4:30 AM in response to Gregory Rice

OUCH!

DON'T TRUST SAVE OPTION ON MARK UPS IN PREVIEW!

Just lost an hour and a half of markup work on a screen shot of my architecture firms building drawing. ... lost similar work the day before and thought it was my fault. So I made point of checking and saving. No Record of progress saves in the the "File - Revert To - Browse All Versions" But the file exists but all but the first version are blanks with the background shade set in preferences. Only the first screen shows the original drawing without any of the 90 minutes of mark ups. Not Good.


A work around is to take a second screen shot of the work and review to confirm it worked. Do this before closing the app. But in the meantime Apple Preview has a serious reliability problem. Hope this helps Jc

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Mar 13, 2018 5:20 AM in response to jcincotta

OUCH!

DON'T TRUST 'SAVE' FILE WHEN USING MARK UPS IN PREVIEW!



A second work around is to doIntermittent saving works but if and only if (iff) you can see each saved version in a finder window. Sometimes I needed to save it twice before seeing it show up in the finder window. WARNING this is a buggy issue. Otherwise beware! saving at the end of your work is NOT dependable.
Apple Preview has a serious reliability problem!


Hope this helps Jc

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