i never set a backup password but it says that i did so i cant do my backups and I NEED THEM!

Lawrence, I'm not sure what happened but I'm glad I took your advice and kept trying. I tried my old Apple password and it worked! I do know for sure that I DID NOT set a password when I backed up my device because I was in a rush when I did so. I know for a fact that I did not type any pass word or code because it was all done the same day. This is for sure some sort of flaw.

The third party programs are a scam. They can work but they are extremely slow. Use Hashcat to try and crack the password. Its a totally free open source, very powerful password cracking program. It does take some getting use to as its all command line based. But there are videos on YouTube on how to use it and install it. I'm using it to try and break my encrypted iphone backup that I didn't set a password for. Go to hashcat.net to learn about it. They also have a forum to help people but I would start with watching YouTube videos.

yes, thank you for your solution!! so good to get a working answer in an Apple forum for once.

so true

Never backed up to the new computer. Give me a break

Just to clarify, this is in response to the list Lawrence posted.

I did not enter a password when I backed up my phone.

I did have encryption on,

These 2 things can't possibly both be true.

Go to "Settings, General, Reset, Reset All Settings" <-- but where!?!?! On the phone? On the iTunes on the computer?

You must do that on the phone that created the encrypted backup. That will allow you to make another backup of that phone that is not encrypted. Cleary, you must still have that phone.

Why? Is iCloud security pointless because I'm able to reset the password?

You're saying a version of the argument that "it is the way it is because that's the way they decided it should be." True, but there were many other options.

Are you implying Apple doesn't read these threads? Shocking.

I'm not accomplishing any more or less than you are. I wonder if you're capable of appreciating that.

I'm not implying it, I'm telling you outright.

I guess you haven't read any of the thread you posted to.

Strange comment. I read most of the posts looking for a solution. Just added my story to add weight to the problem hoping Apple will do something about it.