CarPlay ringer volume is painfully loud. It startles you beyond belief when driving.

Patrykgr wrote:

I really don’t see any danger in this situation

That makes you even more dangerous; it isn't what you don't know that hurts you, it is what you know that isn't so. The difference is when you are talking on the phone you are communicating with another human being. Part of your brain is interpreting and understanding what they are saying, and formulating a reply. When you are listening to music you have no need to formulate a reply, and, unless it is music you have never heard before, there is no interpretation requirement. You can also easily ignore the music, because the source of the music isn't counting on you hearing and understanding it.

The bottom line is that there have been many studies of driver distraction, and talking on a phone is about the same level of distraction and risk whether handheld or hands-free. And is about the same level of risk, handheld or hands-free, as driving under the influence of alcohol or drugs. And, while listening to music is a distraction also, it is an order of magnitude lower risk than talking on a phone. IdrisSeabright has already post a link to a summary of those studies, which I gather you haven't bothered to look at, because it covers the available information you are choosing to ignore.

See my reply right above your post.

Oh, and 10 and 2 is the wrong place to put your hands on a car with air bags. If it goes off it will knock your hands off the wheel and possibly break your wrists. The correct place is 8 and 4. Learned in a driver safety course offered by my insurance company.

Patrykgr wrote:

What’s the difference when you have both hands on the steering wheel and you are talking through a built in microphone and listening through your car audio to your caller? It’s like you would listening to a song and singing in the same time. You don’t have the phone in your hands. It’s connected with Bluetooth to your car audio...

I really don’t see any danger in this situation

Please see the link I provided a couple of posts back. It explains the differences in a very non-jargony way.

AppleDecatur3 wrote:

Give it a rest. You’re just being an internet troll. You went out of the way to avoid helping someone and start a fight. Anyone who reads this, knows what you are doing, and knows you are wrong. Go do something helpful for a change. By the way, I wrote this while watching a show, entertaining a toddler, and chewing gum. (Some people can multitask better than others)

Most people think they can multi-task better than others. Sciences doesn't bear this out. And, if your attention falters while chewing gum, watching television and writing a forum post, the stakes are very low. You'll miss some dialog, make a few typing mistakes. Of course, the toddler may have toddled off and tried to eat the potted plants.

The fact that people pointing out the dangers of driving while distracted makes you so angry makes sounds very much like a guilty conscience trying to justify itself.

And the toddler just ate a dust bunny they found beneath the couch.

When you buy Apple and you host this forum, you can tell others what they can or can't say. Until then, he's just as entitled to say what he wants as you are.

I guess I'll enter the foray too. I am guilty of using Bluetooth and talking on the phone while driving. I have almost had an accident on more than one occasion for doing so. I have, by the way, been rear ended twice in the last 5 years by drivers who were talking on their phones. So, to suggest even if we do our best to be not distracted, that it is not a distraction is fooling ourselves and putting others at risk. To suggest it is not distracting while driving is ignoring the obvious and Idris posted studies that are very valid showing it is totally distracting. Maybe we should all consider (myself included) curbing our time behind the wheel while having a phone conversation. There really is little which is so important that we can't reserve our time behind the wheel of a car to take us from our primary goal, which is and should always be, getting where we need to go as safely as possible.

Bottom line to all of this is that listening to the radio is a distraction while driving. Talking on the phone hands free or not is a distraction. I think we all know this. However, neither are going away, at least in our lifetime, so people just need to deal with it. Driving is scary. Heck, trying to keep up with all the road signs and construction signs is probably the most distracting thing to all drivers. Again though, those are items that aren’t going away. To eliminate phone calls, radio, road signs, etc., which are ALL distractions to drivers, is just a liberal passing thought. So you can either adapt to these things that will never go away, or stay off the roads.

AppleDecatur3 wrote:

Bottom line to all of this is that listening to the radio is a distraction while driving.

Bottom line is that it is, in fact, from neurological perspective, quite different. And the notion that somehow, doing away with all road signs would make us safer, do you seriously believe that? Or is it just an additional strawman.

You clearly just missed my point. All those items I mentioned are distractions, and all of those items I mentioned aren’t going away. (Fact). Also, there are scientific studies that the time it takes to read road signs and the time it takes your eyes off the road, are more distracting than phone use while driving . Which makes perfect sense. Even while the radio or phone call is going on, your eyes are still focused on the road. (Not far ahead of you, to the left of you, to the right, down on the road itself, etc.). There is no solution to these distractions. Someone like you will always create an argument. This is my last post regardless if you reply. “You can drag a horse to water, but you can’t make it drink”.

Yes, all of those are distractions, but not all distractions are created equal. That is the point that you are (possibly deliberately) missing. Going back 15 years, the US AAA argued as you are that phone calls are no greater a distraction than any other distractions. Then they commissioned a number of research studies, and their position turned completely around. They found that the absolute biggest distraction driving is talking on a phone call, whether hand-held or hands-free didn't matter. There is nothing that comes close. Drinking coffee or eating is a significant distraction, but still not as big as talking to a person not present. Talking to a passenger is not close either, because a passenger can evaluate the situation as they can see traffic conditions and moderate the conversation. Reading road signs can be a distraction, but if it is a road you travel frequently you don't pay much attention to them. Having your eyes on the road is not the issue; it is what your brain is doing. If your eyes are seeing but your brain isn't processing what your eyes are seeing is the dangerous condition. Your brain can process visual images if you are listening to music, but not if you are thinking about your response to the conversation.

I'm not creating an argument. I'm reporting the results of extensive research over many years by many agencies. And even by cell phone carriers, who really want you to use your phone. Even they acknowledge that talking on a phone call is probably the most distracting thing you can do in a car, with the possible exception of texting and sex.

Yes, that didn’t work for me either. What did work for me was going to general setting then sounds/haptic then there is a ringer volume slide tool. Mine was defaulted very high. I slid it to about 50% and my Apple play reflected the change.

This is still an open issue with Apple and they’ve yet to address it all year long. To date there is still no fix to the volume car play issue on 2017 CRV. Apple please help!

******* He’s just looking for a solution. Hands free is safer than phone in hand because you then have two hands on the wheel.

Try this. When you are in your car, adjust the volume of the ringtone, while it is ringing. Not before, not after. While it's playing. Also, not on your phone, in your cars settings.

I don’t talk on the phone while driving. I am talking through CarPlay/ Bluetooth (hands-free).

I am driving a lot I I need to answer phone calls so this is not a solution.

I just need to find a solution to turn down the CarPlay ringer volume and won’t talk about what is secure and what not. I have to use the hands free and therefore looking for help....

Thank you