HomeKit remote access not always working

I've had a couple HomeKit accessories for quite a while now (Phillips Hue lights, Sensi thermostat), and at first they worked pretty well. Lately, the automation's that I have set up, and remote access quits working after a couple days. I have a 4th Generation Apple TV set up as the home hub. I have made sure that:

The Apple TV is connected to the Internet and on the same Wi-Fi network as my other iOS devices during set up.

Updated with the latest version of tvOS, iOS.

I can control my accessories in the Home app on my iOS device (using WiFi).

On my Apple TV, in Settings > Accounts > iCloud, it shows HomeKit as Connected.


But when I disable WiFi on my iPhone, the HomeKit app shows my accessories (and Phillips Hue hub) as "No Response". To fix this I usually get on the Apple TV and log out, then log back into iCloud and it will start working again - for a couple days. Then the automation's quit working, and I check again for a remote connection where I get "No Response". I can always turn the accessories (lights) on and off using WiFi in my home, but remote access and automation's are gone. Any ideas?

BTW I always put the Apple TV to sleep when I'm done with it and the remote access and automation's have worked fine for months at a time without issues (and without me turning on the Apple TV).

Apple TV, tvOS 10.2.2

Posted on Aug 4, 2017 7:07 AM

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Posted on Oct 4, 2018 4:14 PM

So after almost a year of banging my head against the wall and countless restores, removing and re-adding all my accessories. I decided to call again and be adamant it was an iCloud issue. Passed me up 3 tiers of support in the first 20 minutes of the call. Spent almost 2 hours on the phone with Mason. Long story short, he was awesome and actually put effort into figuring it out. Low and behold, it was a “block” on my AppleID. He literally “unchecked” the block at his end and almost instantly I was able to send invites, and after about 10 minutes, AppleTV was recognized as the hub again and I could control everything remotely. So if anyone has also been banging their head against the wall for almost a year, call in and tell them to check that. Kudos to Mason and his excellent customer service for actually making the effort to look into it and ask his peers. Last time it was an endless loop of being passed off by support for 3 weeks until I got frustrated and gave up. Persistence pays off I guess. I knew it wasn’t at my end. Hope this helps anyone else having the same problem! Good luck!

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Dec 6, 2017 8:57 AM in response to MTGMan2

Another update. Later in the day/week, my ecobee device stopped working thru Homekit once again. My other devices still worked however. I have since gone back to the wifi setup on the ecobee, and just reconnected to the wifi again. I've had to do this a few times. I ran the wifi setup again last night, and I'm still connected as of right now at work. I reciently did the new iOS update 11.2. Not sure if this helped solve the issue or not. I'll have to see how long my ecobee still works thru homekit this time.

Dec 14, 2017 12:53 PM in response to tommy0349

Hi! I'm having the same issue, only I'm a guest user on my partner's account. It won't let me access HomeKit to control anything unless I'm in the same Wifi as the HomeKit hub. I was hoping the recent iOS 11.2 update would fix it, but alas, no such luck. The Apple TV is set up as the hub and I've tried toggling, turning off and on and it won't work. I've had this issue since he connected me to it when he first set it all up.

Dec 15, 2017 7:44 AM in response to doedoe321

My HomeKit has been working with no issues, either remotely or when connected to wifi. I'm at work now, and can see my ecobee temp, and control my lights. I made sure I have every device updated and patched. As a note, I have not tried to re-setup the leviton control back up. Last time I did, it seemed be the same time I started having these issues. It's probably unrelated, but I'm still not quite sure I want to tackle that again. Maybe when I'm home on Christmas break. I thought I saw a few articles about how they disabled shared access remotely because of some security issues related to some of the door locks.

Dec 19, 2017 12:22 PM in response to MTGMan2

Had a very similar issue after updating to 11.2 . I ran a Wi-fi scanner and protocol checker and noticed that when my Apple TV connected to 5ghz band the issue occurred.


I’ve worked around this by restricting my Wi-fi router to mode 2 and turning off the 5ghz band.


Also had a further issue where my Apple TV remote on iPhones would no longer see the Apple TVs. This also appears to have resolved the issue.


My lights and thermostat are all working consistently with remote access.

Dec 21, 2017 7:50 PM in response to tommy0349

I have the same issue, disconnect from wif and my eco bee does not connect through HomeKit app.. works perfectly on ecobee’s app..


I tried restarting, resetting, logging out of the account and logging back in.. None of it work.. Even the smart plugs from KoolGeek has the same problem.. I am pretty sure it’s an issue with Apple TV not working as hub outside the network..


Hope they fix it soon, it’s very annoying as KoolGeek does not work Without Apple TV as hub.. I don’t want to spend money on getting a stand alone hub..

Dec 25, 2017 1:59 PM in response to tommy0349

This has frustrated me as well for some time. The following two things may help some of you:


1. I have the ApplTV set to never sleep and just assumed that it was not going to sleep. Apparently, however, my television overrides the Apple TV and automatically caused the Apple TV to sleep after a period of inactivity. I shut this setting off on the TV so that the Apple TV will listen to its own setting and actually not sleep. This seemed to work until 11.2 or 11.2.1 which then caused my Hue Bulbs to not respond when not controlled by wifi.


2. I am no techy, but I assumed that if the system works on wifi, the problem must stem from the ATV4's connection to my router since the remote connection goes through that connection whereas, I think, the wifi connection is straight from the iphone to the Hue hub. In order to make sure that something was going awry in that connection, I set up a static ip address for the Apple TV so that it would always use a connection I know would work. While it is still "early," these two fixes are currently working for me.


Good luck to those experiencing this frustrating problem and please post any other fixes since I am uncertain if mine will hold long term.

Dec 27, 2017 11:53 AM in response to doedoe321

I'm having a similar issue with issuing guest access; I'm the primary and I can't seem to allow 2 others in the house to control the installed devices. I've read elsewhere that the invitation should be sent to an iCloud email address. If you're not using an iCloud email address, try creating one and have the invitation sent to you at that address.


Back when I worked at Apple, we tested products thoroughly... we took great pride in our work. It seems now they think they're too big to fail and don't test thoroughly enough. So many bugs in the iPhone and newer Apple products... 😟

Dec 27, 2017 12:21 PM in response to TJHockey

This is where I am now.. Inhave 4 Koogeek smart plugs, they can only be operated by HomeKit app iHome.. There is only one Wi-Fi router and it’s on single band.. I have restarted Apple TV, restarted my Wi-Fi and restarted the plugs.. When I am connected to the same Wi-Fi, I can control my thermostat but not my plugs.. So, I now have to use those plug as manual plugs.. it’s really frustrating.. I was hoping my AppleTV will be one solution to all the problems! I guess not!

Dec 27, 2017 8:00 PM in response to TJHockey

I had this same issue as a guest on Homekit. While on the same network I had access, but remotely I did not. My husband uninvited and re-invited me several times, but the invite didn’t come through. In Home settings (at the bottom of where you select which Home you want), select “Leave Home”. It warns your ICloud HomeKit settings will be deleted, but as soon as you accept the invite, they will come back. Immediately after selecting “Leave Home”, the invite came through and my Homekit worked again after I accepted it.

Dec 28, 2017 12:45 PM in response to conductor girl

Thanks, I did read that solution but I couldn't get that to work either. All that ended up happening is she was completely disconnected from the home and I was still unable to invite her back.


What I ended up doing is, on her phone I selected "Add Home" and sent an invite to me. I received it and immediately attempted to send an invite to her -- SUCCESS!! She received the invite and was once again added to our home. I then deleted the bogus home from HomeKit on both my phone and hers.


At this point, I can control HomeKit from anywhere, but she is still only able to control things from within the confines of our WiFi network.


Tony

Dec 29, 2017 2:21 PM in response to cawgolf

UPDATE: Well, the static IP seemed to work for a bit but as usual, a day or two later, ultimately failed. It seems odd that a "restart" of the Apple TV4 will always cure the problem for me with remote access, but only temporarily. After a day or so, it always fails requiring another restart.


What is it about the Apple TV that fails? My iPhone continues to show that the Apple TV is connected but there is something awry because it will not work remotely. Any help appreciated.

Jan 17, 2018 6:57 AM in response to _Stephen_L

Folks, I had the same issue and put the DNS settings of the Apple TV to the routers address so not a public (Open)DNS server. This resolved the (slowness) issue for me (having an Apple TV 4 with the latest OS).

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