iCloud Dropbox conflicts

I received an email from Dropbox alerting me to conflicts with Mac OS Sierra "Desktop and Documents in the Cloud" and Dropbox.


Did anyone else get this notice? Is anyone else having difficulties with Dropbox receiving iCloud placeholders instead of actual iCloud files when moving something from a MacBook desktop to Dropbox?


I did everything Dropbox suggested. I do have lots of items in my iCloud deleted files that I didn't know I had deleted.


Here's the email I received from them:


"We’re reaching out because we’ve detected one or more .iCloud placeholder files in your Dropbox. These placeholder files could lead to data loss if no action is taken, as the recent release of macOS Sierra has changed the way Dropbox is able to sync files in some circumstances.

To make sure all your files are safe, please follow these steps:

  • Search for .iCloud files on Dropbox. Using the search bar on dropbox.com, type in .iCloud to see which files in your Dropbox are affected. When you’ve identified those files, you’ll need to recover the actual versions from iCloud (follow Apple’s instructions here).
  • Update to the latest version of the Dropbox desktop client (version 11.4.22). To ensure Dropbox continues to sync properly, download the latest version of the desktop client.
  • Manage warning notifications. You may see warning notifications from iCloud when you move files from an iCloud-synced folder into Dropbox. You can opt out of these notifications by following these steps.

Why is this happening?

The .iCloud file type is a “placeholder file” created by iCloud when it tries to free up disk space on Mac devices, as part of Apple’s new Optimize Storage feature. Placeholder files take up very little disk space because they don’t have any of the information that makes up the actual file. You can think of a placeholder file as a map to the actual file—the placeholder file lives on your device, while the actual file it represents lives on the iCloud server.

Unfortunately, moving .iCloud files into Dropbox can cause some serious issues. iCloud treats the file move as a deletion from iCloud, and it deletes the actual file on the iCloud server. In some cases, iCloud will move only the placeholder file into Dropbox, so Dropbox will sync that placeholder instead of your actual file. In this scenario, neither Dropbox nor iCloud still has the actual file.

This scenario can also occur if you’ve moved your Dropbox to a location synced by iCloud (like Documents or Desktop), or if you have a symlink to Dropbox in one of those locations.

For more information on Dropbox and iCloud on macOS Sierra, visit our help center.

Thanks!

The Dropbox Team"


THOUGHTS?

iPhone 6 Plus, macOS Sierra (10.12.6), MacBookPro 13-in 2015

Posted on Aug 26, 2017 6:15 PM

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Dec 28, 2017 12:51 AM in response to aries419

I have this problem but it's worse than I imagined. I got the same Dropbox email and started looking into my Documents folder. Well, iCloud has replace a lot of files there with "placeholder" files. But when I go to iCloud, IT DOES NOT HAVE THE FILES THEMSELVES.


I think this is what the Dropbox email is about. Now, in my case, the files that iCloud has "moved" to itself are NOWHERE. They are not on Dropbox (because it has replaced them with the iCloud "placeholder" files of the same names). They are not on my HD (because iCloud has replaced them with "placeholder" files. And for some reason unknown to me they are not on iCloud either (maybe this is what the Dropbox email means).


This is a steaming mess. Saying that iCloud is not a backup is cute but not helpful. Having iCloud take stuff off the drive and then essentially LOSE it, is not a recommendation. I cannot believe that people who have been happily using Dropbox for years are not also using iCloud, with the results outlined in the Dropbox email.


Presumably some kind of remedy will be found (though the answers here seem smug and useless in about equal measure) but some of us are going to lose hundred or thousands of files in the process. It would be better if we could get serious about the problem and try to work out solutions.


If anyone has information about this issue please post in this thread or the others on this topic here and elsewhere.

Aug 26, 2017 7:35 PM in response to Winston Churchill

Yes, I like and trust Dropbox backup services. I like I can have others share a file that's not connected to my iCloud account for security.


Dropbox offered great and simple backup protection for my files and secondary backup for my photos.


No problems at all with Dropbox until Sierra upgrade. Now plenty of issues with Sierra. Don't know if I like auto "Document and Desktop" backup especially if it hurts my ability to use Dropbox and other apps.

Aug 26, 2017 11:45 PM in response to aries419

Desktop & Documents in iCloud is not a backup, it is simply that those items are put in iCloud Drive so they can be shared among devices and computers. If you do not need to share all of your Desktop and Document data with multiple Macs, then I would recommend that you turn that off in iCloud.


First, create a new Documents folder and a new Desktop folder on your Mac. Make them unique from the original folder names (Documents1 and Desktop1 works, for instance).


Then copy your documents and desktop in iCloud Drive into your new Mac folders.


Once that is done, you can then go to System Preferences>iCloud>iCoud Drive>Options, and uncheck Desktop & Documents.


Cheers,


GB

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