Nikon d850 raw support

Lightroom now supports D850 RAW files. Apple Photos still doesn't !

I'd suggest there is a difference between Aperture not being supported and Apple supporting Nikon D850 RAW. For example, one might be using Apple Photos

That's exactly correct. New camera raw definitions work on Photos but not on Aperture. So, that's what 'Aperture non longer being supported' means...

I look forward to see what Luminar's DAM

Ditto. In the mean time, I've been exploring Mylio - one I misunderstood as I thought the Cloud was mandatory. It's not. It's fast, it will send a file to any editor you choose and (it takes a little fiddling) take back whatever you output. No stacking, unfortunately, but so far, I'm not unhappy. Got 71k images into it in about 2 hours. And if, like me, you have family shooting as well, then it has easy tools for them.

The big selling point is that it will sync your images across multiple devices (not full size if you don't want it), and does it on your home wi-fi not the internet. Working here without a hitch.

You can create a free account to test it out for 25k images. I'm pleasantly surprised.

D850 file working in both Preview and Photos, original date of Nikon file taken on 26th Jan 2017, so almost a year for Apple and Nikon to get this sorted, so bad these days.

main problem is this:

Because Apple changes every year from system you always end up with a system full of new bugs.

only the last .x is the stable one, but at that time they introduce a new buggy system.

Apple software and for instance Raw support for new cameras are only found in the latest system.

They could make is available for old systems as well, but they want you to use the latest system and this is one way to force you.

On the other hand i am running older software that does not work anymore with the latest system, so i end up with the situation that i need. - we are talking about software less than 5 years old!

so i need:

1 the latest system for camera and apple software support

at the same time

2 an older system running the software i need

But i cannot have both.

I think it should be obligatory to fully support to sytems at least 5 years after first publication.

that would mean now- give full support to 10.8 and later.

It is a pity that Apple is slow with supporting the D850.

I agree with many of the posters here that support could have been brought earlier with the 13.1 upgrade.

Adobe is not known to be fast on this point, but supports the camera already for one month.

The camera is out for almost three months and it is an important camera.

Probably they have more important things on their mind like finishing the new system and their own new phone- products.

Surely the point is that if Apple want Photos to be adopted (which appears to be the strategy) then MacOS will need to support current cameras.

I'll be frank. I'm not sure there is anything in Photos that demonstrates Apple has any interest in photographers using cameras like the 850. It seems to me to be squarely aimed at users of less complex devices. It does more, of course, and can be extended in various ways, but bluntly, I don't see any evidence that Apple are taking the Aperture user into any significant consideration with Photos. I recall the email I got (as an Aperture user) after Photos was released. It invited me to have a look at Photos but never suggested that it might be an adequate replacement - and it isn't.

Further, I can easily imagine Apple thinking that someone paying $3k+ for a camera body will be unlikely to process Raws from it with a giveaway raw processor. It's a bit like Pages and Numbers and so on. Perfectly good and useful apps but not up to serious professional usage. For that you go third party.

The camera is out for almost three months and it is an important camera.

It is worth noting that Nikon offered no help on this when they released the 850. Unlike other cameras Adobe had to basically reverse engineer their code, if what I read is correct. That Apple haven't got round to doing the same is, I think, another example of what I referred to above.

Could you post a sample photo here for testing?

If the files are working in Preview it is weird, that they are not working in Photos. Have you tried to delete the photos from Photos and reimporting them?

The footnote in https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT207972 says: . Nikon RAW L format only

It is ridiculous that neither Apple nor Adobe Lightroom support the Nikon D850 as of yet. The 850 was released almost a month ago. Both Apple and Adobe should have been fully aware of this camera coming and should have been able to have support for the D850 almost on day 1 of it's release. No excuses.

My need for Apple to support the D850 is not for Aperture - it's for image display in things like Finder. I walked from Aperture when Apple pulled the plug (yes, I, too was not happy about what Apple did given I had about 200K images in Aperture). At that time I invested significantly in Lightroom - migrating many images to LR (I was an Adobe beta user on the migration tool), and have little interest in moving to yet another organizer/lead image editor, like Capture One.

That being said, I am curious what you mean by "output is better than Nikon's own NX-D, and WAY better than the current output from ACR." What specifically is better?

Until Adobe supports the D850's NEF files, is there any downside to converting the DNG for use in Lightroom? Do I lose any image quality? And for those DNG experts, what's the advantage to including the original NEF in the DNG file (that's one of the converter preference settings), vs just keeping the NEFs separate for future optional access?

Thanks.

Apple always tries to force the latest system on you with the latest bugs.

A buggy free system is impossible if you follow Apples ideal upgrade path.

This is one of those things to force you- for sure only 10.13 gets d850 support ( in the end) to force you to new APFS bugs or bugs in old software that used to work perfectly.

Every new system gets updated programs like Keynote etc that are not downwards competable and the old versions cannot be downloaded anymore...

Not very nice to say the least.

they seem to think the future is now, but it never is.

I guess you refer to what i have written.. 🙂

Well i am using Apples since 1984 so there is not much difference there...

Everything i said can checked as valid.

I don't like it that because i have a new camera i have to move to the latest unstable 10.x.0 system to get support.

With little effort they could make life easier for costumers to keep using their old systems that in my case is needed to support old software. Usually only the last update of the older system is really stable. That is the one i want to use ( in this case 10.12.6).

and for instance 10.13 /10.12 is not supporting the old 3.1 mac pro while the only thing that is not supported is the wifi unit in this machine. Why not make it available and say - wifi does not work. The machine still runs great.

With little effort they could make life easier for costumers to keep using their old systems

Can you specify what that effort includes? I often see people say this but no one ever seems to tell me what exactly is involved.