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No Batteries Available . . .

Hi,

Another MacBook with a problem battery. I took my MacBook on a trip with me and the battery was low when I left. I never had a chance to use it over the two days I was away so I didn't plug it in at all to charge. Now when I plug in my MacBook I get the "No Batteries Available" message in the energy drop-down in the menu bar.

I bought my MacBook in June so Apple Care didn't want to talk to me, of course. I'll be heading into a nearby Apple Store today to speak to a "genius".

I'm just wondering what I should expect for a response given that the battery is nearly 7 months old. Most posts that I've read where replacement batteries were given to MacBook owners were less than a month old. I don't think I should have to replace a completely dead battery after 7 months.

Opinions?

Dual 2.3 G5/Apple 23" Cinema, MacBook 1.83, Mac OS X (10.4.8)

Posted on Jan 8, 2007 7:20 AM

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Jan 15, 2007 8:40 AM in response to daroca

daroca, I read that you went through two batteries and a logic board. Is this a second logic board replacement for you (3rd logic board including the original)?

If so, what process did you go through to get the logic board replaced? Did you just use the replacement batteries until you got the "X" on the meter and then bring it back in for more diagnostics?

Jan 15, 2007 2:00 PM in response to Scott Widmer

Scott,

This is the first logic board replacement that I have had, I contacted Apple, as the second battery replacement had not resolved the problem (after a few months the new battery also got reported an "X").

I pushed Apple support this time, as they offered me another battery, which I knew would work, I asked if they could escalate this to second level which they did, and at that time suggested the logic board could be the cause.
I did test my macbook with another battery and it did work, so if apple did ship me another battery it would have worked for some period of time.

My macbook has been shipped to a local AASP, who confirmed today that the logic board needed to be replaced, I didn't ask how they got to this solution, as I believe they just follow the service manual or what Apple have recommended, as the problem, has to be either the logic board or battery.

I would have liked to test a "failing battery" in another macbook, but couldn't do this. I'm surprised at the lack of
troubleshooting Apple appear to be carrying out on this problem, I guess
1) They have no idea what is the cause (s/w, f/w or h/w).
2) They understand the problem and it's a costly fix, so they are working on a fix on failure solution, choosing to replace the battery first as it's the cheaper option.

I think the answer is (2), but I have read in this forum the problem has occured after a logic board replacement.

Jan 15, 2007 4:16 PM in response to daroca

Hi daroca

slowdown .. hihihi, not bad ... 😉

Sorry for replying so late, but am currently in the last days of my postgraduate studies, and am writing exams and stuff ..

Anyway, the problem is still not solved, my battery is still not recognised.

My book is a rather sad story.

First they replaced my logicboard due to the RSS problem. After that, several new problems appeared, especially the battery problem as described within this thread. I went to Scotsys here in Glasgow, to get this fixed. 4 weeks later I got my Macbook back: a new logicboard (again), a couple of other things and a new battery. However, the latter was/is still not recognised. In other words: I wouldn't be so sure that everything will be fine after the replacement of your logicboard.

Well, I do only see one last chance: I am German, and I bought my Macbook in the German Apple online store during my last stay in Germany. According to our civil code, I can give my Macbook back after 2 unsuccesfull repairs, and so I will. That is really sad, but I do not see any chance at all that they will fix the problems with this computer in the next couple of months/years/decades...

Thus, sorry for not being able to help you! In any case, if I would be you, I would call Apple in order to ask for a shiny new Macbook, since three repairs are unacceptable (especially for that huge amount of money - well, at least for a student like me)!

Cheers,
sHowdown 😉

MacBook 2 Ghz, 2 GB Ram, 80 GB HDD, White Mac OS X (10.4.8)

Jan 15, 2007 4:14 PM in response to Cass67

Hiya

I forgot to say that: If u r in sunny Glasgow, then don't try Scotsys in Great Western road. They are *****, and I don't really think that they know, what they are doing.

According to my repair note (or however this is called in English), everything was 'tested' and was 'working fine'. Apparently that was not the case, since the battery never worked with the new logicboard(s).

Best thing was that they replaced my German keyboard with an English one .. lol. Unbelievable. Besides that they needed aaaaagggggeeeessss (4 weeks!) to fix my problems, just to create more of them ... grr!

Cheers

MacBook 2 Ghz, 2 GB Ram, 80 GB HDD, White Mac OS X (10.4.8)

Jan 15, 2007 4:19 PM in response to Scott Widmer

Hi Scott,

I posted a workaround that works for me earlier in this thread ..

Basically, i lose the battery (X) and to get it back without letting my battery drain until the macbook hibernates the laptop and puts the ram contents to disk and switches off.

I downloaded the deep sleep widget and send my system to deep sleep (hibernate) then start it back up, the battery is now detected. (mabey one or 2 deep sleeps for this)

Possibly i have to sleep the laptop in battery mode then switch on with power, or not, i aint got the system down to a tee, i cant remember the exact steps, but basically the difference between suspend to ram (sleep) and suspend to disk (deep sleep) is the difference between not having the (X) on display and getting it back when its gone.

Its not a fix but more a workaround, i have done this twice and am quite happy with it.

Hope that made sense

Cass

Jan 16, 2007 7:26 AM in response to Cass67

Cass67,

Thanks for repeating yourself. I didn't remember reading it before when looking at responses.

I did as you said and only got the same results as I have gotten when shutting the lid (without shutting down) and unplugging the power by accident. When the computer loads the saved state the "X" is gone and replaced with the battery symbol with the power cord and a "(0%)" reading next to it but the battery never charges.

So do are you getting rid of the "X" with this workaround, or does it actually get your MacBook to charge the battery once again?

Jan 17, 2007 10:29 AM in response to Cass67

Been waiting too long for a replacement battery for Apple so I broke down and bought a new battery today. It's in the MacBook now charging normally. I guess I'll have to see how long this new battery and/or the replacement battery from Apple lasts before becoming useless bricks. Hopefully that won't happen, but from what I've been reading on here it's probably inevitable.

Feb 4, 2007 1:42 PM in response to Scott Widmer

Though I would updated this thread for completeness.

I had the battery 'X' problem, Apple decided to replace my logic board this time, it went to a AASP. They called me after about a week to inform me after they replaced the logic board, the keyboard and mouse failed to work.
They mentioned something about it needing a new top case, and need to order the parts, but said there was a two week wait. (This filled me with confidence !)

So I'm been without my macbook for nearly three weeks, and still waiting for it to be fixed, should be back with me this week or next.

I sure hope Apple understand this battery issue, or maybe they are hoping most failures will occur outside of the warranty period.

Looking at these forums, seems to show me it's occuring more frequently over time.

I'll update this thread when my macbook is returned. I will be attempting to recreate the battery failure, which with any luck I will not be able to do.

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