iTunes 12.7

mojo design wrote:

For those who are still struggling with the update to 12.7 and not having a way to mange your iOS devices on mac. There is always Apple Configurator app on Mac app store. Not as easy to use as iTunes for managing apps but still fairly simple. I had earlier mentioned the use of AnyTrans software, but aside from having to pay for AnyTrans, it has some limitations and is buggy after more through exploration. So Apple Configurator is going to be my go to choice for now. Plus its free! Great way to get ton of apps on a iOS device fast!

I'm not sure why you're replying to me as I am not someone who has expressed interest in managing my apps from my computer. However, it does appear that the Configurator option hadn't yet gotten mentioned in this thread as it has in most of the others on this subject. So, good of you to bring it up,

Apple Configurator - Official Apple Support

You're quite right, however it does make the process of downgrading much easier. I've tested in both Mac and Windows. For Windows you need to uninstall the current version of iTunes, and perhaps Apple Software Update to avoid prompts to upgrade in future. In both cases you also need to manually restore the pre-iTunes 12.7 version of your library in a manner such as is given in Empty/corrupt iTunes library after upgrade/crash.

See Deploy apps in a business environment with iTunes - Apple Support for the original documentation on this release.

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As given in Deploy apps in a business environment with iTunes - Apple Support:

You won’t be prompted to download new versions of iTunes after you install this version. Learn how to update to the latest version of iTunes when you're ready to upgrade manually.

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Apple has posted a dmg of iTunes 12.6.3 (the previous version that does manage apps). This is primarily for businesses that need iTunes to manage apps on multiple phones. You can install 12.6.3 from this (replacing 12.7), and you will not be alerted to install future versions of iTunes going forward. It does work with iOS 11. For some, this may be worth a try. If it doesn't play out well, you can later download 12.7. Deploy apps in a business environment with iTunes - Apple Support

peterfromthurgoona wrote:

...The question now is where does that [deleted] app go to? complete delete from the phone? if so, how do i retrieve it back on to the phone if I decide later that I want it.

I have found the collection of iOS apps on my computer [Music>iTunes>Mobile Applications] but of course that lists only the apps which I have or deleted prior to 12.7. And in any case I can not see how to reinstall any of those.

Where do I look to seek new iOS apps?

Deleted apps are removed from your device to free up memory. They can be restored from your purchase history in the App Store on your device. See Redownload music, movies, TV shows, apps, and books from the iTunes Store, iBooks Store, and App Store - Apple Support.

You can drag and drop apps from your computer to the device where it appears in the sidebar in iTunes.

New apps are obtained using the App Store on the device.

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See Managing apps with iTunes 12.7 or later. If you restore a backup of your device made with iTunes 12.7 or later then the layout of apps and the apps themselves get restored too. Installing 12.6.3 is an option if you really prefer to manage apps within iTunes.

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I guess we will simply have to disagree. You think it is fine for Apple to radically and authoritatively alter how you can use equipment they have already sold to people. I don't. Hopefully, you understand what irony means and may even be bright enough to understand the relevance. Here's Apple's 1984 advertisement announcing the Mac:

Apple - 1984 - YouTube

Unfortunately, I am not the first person to point out the irony in Apple complaining in 1984 about heavy-handed corporate control of the computing environment... and using "fascist" to characterize Apple's conduct:

• 2010: "More likefascistphone, right?"
  http://www.cracked.com/article_18377_5-reasons-you-should-be-scared-apple.html
• 2011: "And just last month, in the creepiest example of Apple's fascist tendencies, two of Apple's private security agents searched the home of a San Francisco man and threatened him and his family with immigration trouble as part of an scramble for a missing iPhone prototype."
  https://gawker.com/5847344/what-everyone-is-too-polite-to-say-about-steve-jobs
• 2012: "Just some of the fascist lunacy: [Apple] Employees are regularly hired without knowing what their jobs are—or what their coworkers are doing."
  http://gizmodo.com/5877213/working-at-apple-is-brutally-insane-and-awful
• 2017: "Steve Jobs's design philosophy was fascist more than it was exacting."
  https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2017/02/the-myth-of-apples-great- design/516093/

But... by all means... ignore the message and attack the messenger. As I said, I stand by my use of the term.

I agree with Svenborg - I do not like this. However, is there some way to manage the apps on the iPhone - that is, to move apps to different screens and folders? I never figured out how to do that on the iPhone before, and I can't figure it out now.

Thank you.

The use of Apps on my iPhone is 90% of the reason I switched to iPhone originally. Unless Apple provides us MORE functionality in management of Apps on the desktop instead of LESS (in this case NONE), the only solution I can see is "Android".

I also agree. I need iBooks on my computer more than just for personal use, and being able to navigate through different territories as well. That's not done simply via my iPhone. I may have to revert to an older version of iTunes in the interim...

So, I realize this is probably a really dumb question...there is no way to download just iBooks then for my computer, the way i can do it on my iphone? At least if there was that option...or even a web-based option, I could make that work...

Sorry for the lack of clarity.

Is there a way to download iBooks on a PC/Windows? I'm under the impression there isn't but maybe i'm wrong. I've always used iBooks in iTunes on a PC, but now that I updated iTunes, iBooks is no longer an option in iTunes. Basically i need to use iBooks on a PC. If the option is available through iTunes or through another system I'm fine with that...but as far as I can see it isn't. But please let me know if i'm wrong!

Cheers

centerice wrote:

From linked Apple article above.

"The new iTunes focuses on music, movies, TV shows, podcasts, and audiobooks. Apps for iPhone, iPad, and iPod touch are now exclusively available in the new App Store for iOS. And the new App Store makes it easy to get, update, and redownload apps—all without a Mac or PC."

All over WiFi that are about as secure as leaving my car windows

open and keys in the ignition at an airport when I go away for a week.

For example, you update your messenger but it crash on start. Or new version just disgusting for you 🙂

At iTunes 12.6 you can install previous version of application and start to use it. Now, few days must pass before bug will be fixed.

But if Apple let us choose between versions, it solve the problem. Also I want to use selective restore from backup.

Disabling apps management for users now, Apple going to past, not future.

So presumably now is the time to remove 16Gb of data from the mobile apps folder on my hd, I'm surprised Apple did not delete this data unless of course sync will still copy apps from my iPhone or iPad to my local disk which I doubt very much.