How do I manage apps without iTunes

Today iTunes “upgraded” itself, and apparently no longer lets me use it to manage my iPhone & iPad apps.


I always buy my apps in iTunes.
That way I don’t need to cut and paste my password because access to my desktop computer is limited.


I have lots of apps which I don’t keep on my devices, and I can scroll through them and select some to load.
Or I used to be able to do that.
I now don’t know how to browse through apps that I have already paid for when they aren’t on my devices.


And I had my iPad set to automatically load new apps that I buy, but my iPhone only loads new apps when I tell it to.
I only need to download apps once, not separately for each device.


I decided to see what happens when I went to the app store on my iMac.
It appears that I can no longer order it from my Mac.
I need to download it on my phone or my pad.
Or go to one device, buy it and download it, then go to the other device and download it separately! I thought computers were supposed to make things simpler!


And some apps I paid for and had on my Mac are no longer available in the App store. Yesterday, I could have loaded them on my iDevices.
Today I can’t.


(apparently it doesn’t have my ringtone anymore either - I’ll have to find some way to save the one I paid for in case I need to rebuild my phone from scratch).


So how do manage apps now?

iPhone 6 Plus, iOS 10, IOS

Posted on Sep 13, 2017 9:28 AM

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Posted on Sep 13, 2017 9:43 AM

Management of iOS Apps is now confined to the iPhone, iPad or iPod Touch.


If you need to download an app you've bought before, open the App Store app on your iPhone or iPad, and go to the Purchased section there. (on an iPhone its under Updates).


You can then see all the Apps you've ever bought directly on the iOS device, and an choose which to download. You can even limit the list so that only non installed Apps on the device are displayed in the list.


If you want to have purchased apps automatically download to all your devices when you buy or download them in one from the store, you can turn on Automatic Downloads in Settings->iTunes and App Stores.

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Sep 13, 2017 11:09 AM in response to Demo

Hi. Just a little techie thought here. Since last year, Apple has been transitioning app distribution to a new "thinned" format, where the app file downloaded to a device includes only data and code (objects) for that device. So, no huge 12.9 graphics on a phone, no tacky phone menus on a Pro. This link: https://developer.apple.com/library/content/documentation/IDEs/Conceptual/AppDis tributionGuide/AppThinning/AppThinning.h…

describes the details.


I suppose that, in iTunes 12.6, the app manager had to download the full app distribution file, and manage the thinning for a specific device itself. That sounds like a rather lumpy process. I guess that the transition is now complete, so iTunes has been taken out of the app distribution loop. And, of course, this is more consistent with Apple's apparent move toward the "cloud" for everything.

Sep 13, 2017 11:16 AM in response to Diana.McCall

Diana.McCall wrote:



I suppose that, in iTunes 12.6, the app manager had to download the full app distribution file, and manage the thinning for a specific device itself. That sounds like a rather lumpy process. I guess that the transition is now complete, so iTunes has been taken out of the app distribution loop. And, of course, this is more consistent with Apple's apparent move toward the "cloud" for everything.

I am familiar with app thinning and understand the idea behind it. I believe that you are correct in that the entire "all purpose" version of the app was being downloaded to the computer when using iTunes to download or update apps. It makes sense that iTunes is no longer needed then, if that transition is complete.


I see it as a good thing if I no longer have to worrry about clogging up my Mac with iOS apps in the iTunes library as long as I still have access to them on the devices themselves.

Sep 13, 2017 9:54 AM in response to Howard Brazee

OK, let's start at the beginning before you totally change the way you function within your normal environment:

Howard Brazee wrote:


Today iTunes “upgraded” itself, and apparently no longer lets me use it to manage my iPhone & iPad apps.


What does that mean? What is preventing you from managing your iPhone and iPad Apps?


What iTunes version did you upgrade to?


What version of macOS (or OS if Windows) are you running?


What iOS versions are running on your devcies in question?


GB

Sep 13, 2017 4:05 PM in response to gail from maine

I do see I still have a bunch of cryptic files at "/Users/<your username>/Library/Application Support/MobileSync/Backup" . I don't know if the apps that used to be there are still there. I opened the app store on my iPad, and found updates on the bottom right. There are two updates waiting. I wouldn't mind them updating automatically, but only at home using my wi-fi, not using my phone minutes. I clicked on "Purchases" (thanks, I never would have guessed to press that) and got the message: "This iTunes account is set up to use Family Sharing with a different iCloud account than ***********. That is because I started my icloud account before it needed to be in e-mail format, and had a real hard time converting it to my e-mail address. Later on I needed an icloud.com account in order to do "Find My Friends", but couldn't convert everything from my e-mail address to that. I see my apps in the "Not on This iPhone" column, but don't know how to sort them by size the way I did on iTunes (useful in deciding what apps to keep on my phone).


Hmmm, my settings has automatic dowload for apps & updats, but not music and Books & Audiobooks. "Use Cellular Data" is turned off. My phone is plugged into my Mac where and sees WiFi, but it's not uploading my two updates automatically. My iPad has 7 updates waiting. Since they were both updated last night, I assume the difference is because they are recognizing which apps go to which device. I decided to set the iPad to have all Automatic Downloads and Use Cellular Data to see what happens. Nothing is updating.


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Sep 17, 2017 11:00 PM in response to gail from maine

Thanks for this. I genuinely appreciate it.


However, I really think I'm going to have real problems with this and think a warning should have come before the update. One big problem, aside from downloading a lot of apps separately on 2 or 3 devices, is content for apps. Maybe there's some way to do this in some now incredibly clunky way. However, I have for example on just onoe app (PDF Expert) 7GB of content in the form of Pdfs. And that's just one app, that I use on 3 devices. Makes no sense to me unless 1. Apple doesn't want me to use content in this flexible and for me entirely necessary way and 2. Apple just doesn't care about me as a user ... or the time it's going to take me to sort this out (which I don't have) ... they only see my interests and use as something to be "harvested" within what is an increasingly tight little Apple ecology—not only for software and hardware but for what flows through them and how it does. It is looking more and more like I should slowly get out of the Apple world, and I've been a devotee since the 90s. We've got apple stuff everywhere here. However, as a new phone is due it's increasingly looking like it might be Samsung.

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