Files App - Create Folder "On My iPad"

One if the most common ways of distributing malware is to hide malicious code in images, music files and other documents. That’s the point of sandboxing - it severely restricts the very possibility of such malicious code actually being able to do anything of value to a hacker. The minute you allow those sorts of files to cross sandbox boundaries, yes, you inherently degrade file system security. If you’ve implemented a sandbox for security, then there is no point in keeping it at all if you’re going to allow exceptions, any exceptions, to the sandbox rules. It’s no different than installing door locks in your house, but then never actually locking the doors. Pointless to begin with.

It is precisely why there are tens of thousands of Windows exploits in the wild at any given time. Windows exploits propagate in emails and various file attachments or internet downloads or files exchanged by users. Since they have effectively unrestricted access to the OS and file system, then can install themselves, run and access any other file on your Windows machine. They can also self propagate at that point.

Given what many people routinely carry around in their smart phones and tablets, I would not want Apple to do anything to degrade iOS security and open doors to malicious software that currently don’t exist. They designed iOS from the ground up to avoid such issues with this particular operating system, and they have been steadfast in keeping to that design philosophy.

Its been said many, many times, but people refuse to acknowledge it - there is no such thing as “convenient security”. You either have convenience or you have security, but those two concepts are at mutually exclusive odds with each other.

Given what many people routinely carry around in theor smart phones and tablets, I would not want Apple to do anything to degrade iOS security

Neither would I. And I would vehemently oppose all attempts to do so.

I think that you think that you are addressing Apple here, I have to tell you that you are not. This forum (I assume that you never looked at the terms of use) is manned by users of Apple products, just like you. Not Apple themselves.

@ Michael Black

Yeah, but concerning the issue in question, isn't it already possible to organize and customize folders of files on the iCloud Drive and still access them from the apps on your iPad?

The Files app could also be designed in a way where each file can only go to and from the specific app and Files app, without being able to do anything else that could affect the apps or system?

So, any malicious code/exploits that could possibly be hidden in those files wouldn't have unrestricted access to the OS and file system, as they do in Windows.

One of the biggest problem in Windows is that, as you say, you can install any program you want in any way you want, and so " malicious programs can install themselves, run and access any other file on your Windows machine. They can also self propagate at that point."

But does just being able to organize files in customized folder automatically means that it will allow programs to have free access to the OS and to install themselves the way they want?

iOs would still be very rigid, because of the way installing software works on iOs. It wouldn't become a new Windows just with a more accessible file management system.

@ Csound1

Could you name a few specifically please, that would be more helpful than just a vague comment.

Anyways, I would still prefer if it was implemented in the "official" Files app, well presented and well done, with easier access and without bugs. Why would we have to rely on third party software for something this basic and useful if the technology is already there?

The "save to Files" instruction is more interesting and rapid than having to forward them to a third party application.

I see you have a high degree of observation, indeed this is the first time I get here and reached the place for the same reason than WestVanPete and growing the same opinions than DomLogic. I fully agree their opinions and I disagree yours and M Black's points of view based in fear and not really providing any solution... maybe you are too experts and have accepted the current status without any complaint ("this is the state of the art... you can take it or go")

However I believe that if not you, probably anyone from the staff could be reading this discussions between the constraints gardians and the flexibility and adaption wishers.

Sure that living in an Apple world is smarter and more secure but I also meet people upset of all these maniquean beliefs.

BTW, a pity, VanPete, to leave such a beautiful device just for kid playing...

In my Co. they are deploying devices in iOS and macOS that seem they will be renewed following the obsolencense programs... for sure that if they were asking me right now for an opinion it wouldn't be the best moment for supporting it.

@ Csound1

"DropBox, Google Drive, OneDrive. Box"

right... all applications that manage your files on an external server and not on your device, which is missing the whole point of the topic entirely.

From post number 1 of the OP, we have all agreed that file management was already possible via cloud services and applications.

The point of this topic is to be able to do it on your device memory, locally.

"And in answer to your question I will ask one of my own.

Why would you use something that does not do what you want?

That is to me the most interesting question."

Then the next question is,

Why would you post on this topic if you have nothing relevant to the actual discussion to say?

You're not actually trying to help or contribute to the topic in any way, you're just here to troll.

A demo is a wonderful thing.

Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.

Realizing about all the changes happened in 10 years all around, a little opening to allow users to ease the interchange of files should be taken in consideration and eventually provided.

Relaxing the security would be the good choice?

I do not agree with that.

Suggesting that you use something that meets your needs is not in any way rude.

And don't tell me to get lost, it is rude.

I still believe that you or your staff in your think tanks are wise enouth to find a solution for this need.

Apps and Services that will allow that to happen abound, you could just use one of them if that is what you want.