Files App - Create Folder "On My iPad"

I picked up a 512GB 10.5" beauty a few months ago with the hope that I could use it for work, especially once iOS 11 came out.


I was hoping to store my documents on the iPad in folders for projects I'm working on. However, it doesn't seem that I can make any folders in the new Files App in the location "On My iPad". I have one folder already there - Pixelmator, and it is empty. So I could make folders within the Pixelmator Folder, but I'd rather not do that as it makes no sense.


In these Project folders I'd like to store Presentations, photos, videos etc., which is how I currently do things on my Mac.


I'm I completely missing the boat here? What is the files app for if you can't make folders in it on your iPad?


(I get that I can do so in iCloud Drive, but I don't want to sync everything with the cloud all the time - it's too big)


Thanks for any advice you may have.

iMac, macOS Sierra (10.12)

Posted on Sep 19, 2017 3:31 PM

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Posted on Jan 16, 2018 5:51 AM

Exactly. You can be like a cuckoo and stash folders in the private storage of other apps. GarageBand seems to be a popular choice. In principle, those apps might be confused to find this corrupted data in their storage, but you can access it through the Files app. Apple has decided not to include local storage in the Files app. Clearly, it would not be impossible to implement it. But you cannot do it at this time. Incidentally, you can use other file manager apps, like FileExplorer or Documents 6, to locally store files of different types in folders you create. And FileExplorer is accessible from Files. So that's a solution to managing random data without hiding it in an app like Acrobat.

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Sep 19, 2017 6:26 PM in response to WestVanPete

Since you question the reasoning, I need to mention the sandboxed environment provided by iOS to each app, in which it manages data created by it. Apps can only access other apps' data via the formal sharing protocol, allowing them to take copies of the data, only. This results in a highly secure system for mobile devices. This is not the same as a general-purpose computer. Unfortunately for you.

Sep 19, 2017 6:34 PM in response to WestVanPete

WestVanPete wrote:


I was under the impression the Files app was a place to store files. I can't even drag and drop anywhere except for my one folder. Pixelmator. The folder that will contain everything. So weird.


There was quite a lot of excitement when the Files app was announced for iOS 11. I was sceptical, since the idea of an open filesystem would contradict 10 years of iOS history, and invalidate all existing apps. The result seems to be less than even I expected. It should improve as apps are updated to improve their interfaces with Files. Even though Files is from Apple, I don't believe it can actually access apps' data. It can only request it using formal interfaces. Nothing like browsing a directory structure.

Jan 16, 2018 7:46 AM in response to WestVanPete

It is a lot more than just merely iCloud Drive. I have my OneDrive, Box, Dropbox and Google Drive all in the files app.


But regardless of this new app, iOS is a sandboxed operating system and file system. It also has been. The sandbox structure is central to iOS‘s security model and was built into it from the very beginning. Each app, and each apps files and file space are isolated from each other.


The files app does not change the fundamental sandboxed design of iOS at all. It merely provides a single or central place to access online storage or app’s file space without having to find and launch the individual apps that then allow access to those files.

Jan 16, 2018 8:10 AM in response to IuCorbiCat

IuCorbiCat wrote:


After reading all the opinions and answers from the support I understand that despite an excellent media player, the file system is not really usable in the way any other folder system is thought.

And iOS‘s file system has always been this way, and was explicitly and deliberately designed to be so. The concept is called “sandboxing” - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandbox_(computer_security) It is part of the very core of iOS’s security model. iOS does not grant user access to its file system - it never has. Nor does it allow 3rd party apps to access another 3rd party app’s file space.


See also https://developer.apple.com/library/content/documentation/FileManagement/Concept ual/FileSystemProgrammingGuide/FileSyste…


As taken from the very first page if that document:

About the iOS File System

The iOS file system is geared toward apps running on their own. To keep the system simple, users of iOS devices do not have direct access to the file system and apps are expected to follow this convention.

Jan 16, 2018 8:35 AM in response to Csound1

They WOULD NOT have to relax security for this functionality.


Just give us the option to make a folder in iCloud Drive that does not sync to the cloud. (and run up against our 5GB limit)


We could then put ALL of our documents in there.


That would work perfectly. But as the Apple Genius whispered to me, this is about selling storage, not finding a solution.

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