WiFi in iOS 11 keeps turning on

Gilderon wrote:

At least the 3 of you i’ve been chatting with this morning appear to be unaware of the risks of using widely available so-called secure WiFi networks. It doesn’t seem like you’ll be convinced or that you’re convinced of the opposite. That’s your potential problem, not mine. Have a good day.

And we in turn do not think that you know anything about the things you pontificate upon, so, it's a wash.

Remember to avoid arrest.

I really don’t care or have any skin in this game, other than to complain that recent settings changes made it harder for me to follow the advice and direction received through work as well as to have more personal control over my iPhone. I’m not pontificating about anything, just passing along info and grousing about the settchange.

Gilderon wrote:

As you wish. I’m just conveying info given to me by experts advising us on minimizing cyber risk (not eliminating, since that’s impossible if you need to be online to work).

Either your experts are clueless or you misunderstood them. Given your demonstrated level of understanding, I'm inclined to suspect the latter.

Gilderon wrote:

I really don’t care or have any skin in this game, other than to complain that recent settings changes made it harder for me to follow the advice and direction received through work as well as to have more personal control over my iPhone. I’m not pontificating about anything, just passing along info and grousing about the settchange.

Are you attempting to correct my observations. 😮

That widely available so-called secure WiFi networks are more secure for data transfer than encrypted cellular networks? To specify, I’m not talking about what the cellular operators can access but what individual hackers accessing the WiFi network can obtain.

Gilderon wrote:

That widely available so-called secure WiFi networks are more secure for data transfer than encrypted cellular networks? To specify, I’m not talking about what the cellular operators can access but what individual hackers accessing the WiFi network can obtain.

It appears you haven't been reading people's, especially Lawrence's posts. You're also missing the point that more of your data is being hoovered up by your cellular carrier and sold or given away than any hacker will ever get. The fact that what they do is legal doesn't make it any less a profound privacy issue. The idea of "hackers" is so much more interesting as a headline than simple corporate greed and governmental overreach. So, it gets much more play in the media. It's like all those parents who are terrified that their children will be molested by strangers while ignoring the fact that most children are molested by people they know.

The sort of legal data hoovering you describe is well known to me and not what bothers me. It’s the illegal data interception and utilization that worries me and which has been at the heart of my concerns expressed on this thread.

Gilderon wrote:

The sort of legal data hoovering you describe is well known to me and not what bothers me. It’s the illegal data interception and utilization that worries me and which has been at the heart of my concerns expressed on this thread.

So, you want to worry about something that is highly unlikely given the safe guards in place (please go back and read Lawrence's post on why WiFi is not insecure in the way that you seem to think) but aren't concerned about a real and documented privacy issue. Well, suit yourself.

Please keep in mind the unknown cybersecurity specialists that apparently don't want any further business at his unstated business have said otherwise. You appear to be severely out-of-step with our current 1984 society.

deggie wrote:

Please keep in mind the unknown cybersecurity specialists that apparently don't want any further business at his unstated business have said otherwise. You appear to be severely out-of-step with our current 1984 society.

I have been known to march to the beat of a different drummer.

(Rats! I've now got "The Little Drummer Boy" stuck in my head!)

Since we will all be deleted, in the Dallas Morning News this morning they had a letter to the editor from a Mr. G. D. Ball of San Antonio. He hopes that when the current President's term is up someone will compile all of his tweets to book form. The title: State-Sponsored Errorism.

Off-topic yes, not even close to libel. We used to be able to report our own posts in a previous incarnation of our software and I used to post then report myself knowing the people I wanted to see the post would get an email containing it. But you have the admire the fact I didn't plagiarize and gave credit to the letter writer.

Gilderon wrote:

No, I don’t want to worry about what’s unlikely. I need to. I wish it were otherwise.

Then consider switching your phone for a pencil and paper. (keep the paper in your pocket for safety's sake

deggie wrote:

Actually shouldn't you have the Stone Poneys song "Different Drum" stuck in your head? Or maybe Michael Nesmith's version since he wrote it. Or segue into "One Tin Soldier"?

Well, I guess it's good that you've now replaced The Little Drummer Boy" with "One Tin Soldier". At least I know all the words to that one.

deggie wrote:

Since we will all be deleted, in the Dallas Morning News this morning they had a letter to the editor from a Mr. G. D. Ball of San Antonio. He hopes that when the current President's term is up someone will compile all of his tweets to book form. The title: State-Sponsored Errorism.

I love it!