FIX- Could not create a Preboot Volume for APFS install

Right Mac users. If your facing the same problem like me then I suggest you listen up. First don't try to install Mac OS high Sierra again or try anything else. You want to first of delete your drive until you have no drive. Yes I mean no drive. To do this, power off your Mac and then hold command + R and boot up your Mac. This should do the trick. Then delete your drive in disk utility by clicking the minus button on the top right and then enter internet recovery mode by repeating the process though this time adding option and then command + R. Then you will enter the same menu which is mac os utilities and then this time instead of Mac OS High Sierra you will just see Sierra. Go disk utilty and create a disk this time clicking + and make a drive calling it Macintosh HD with the format Mac OS Extended. The fix is your removing the APFS system which is what is confusing the drive which for some reason apple can't figure out them self. Then just click install Mac OS and you should be good to go. Hope your all good and ask anything you need.

MacBook Pro (13-inch, Late 2016, 4 TBT3), macOS High Sierra (10.13)

Posted on Oct 8, 2017 10:06 AM

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Posted on Jul 3, 2018 8:25 PM

My Mac Pro was upgraded to High Sierra Awhile ago automatically. I encountered some problems that were difficult to resolve, not sure High Sierra was responsible, but I decided an erase and clean install of High Sierra was warranted, and so I backed up my data and started the procedure. The diskutil only gave me the option to reformat into an APFS format, so I reformatted it in APFS reasoning High Sierra works on it, so it must be the right format after all, right? Big Mistake!


High Sierra then would not install, it would freeze up while trying to install. Internet install also did not work, and it would often freeze and sometimes give sometimes strange and cryptic error codes trying to install. I even tried a USB Boot disk with High Sierra dmg file designed for new install, and it also froze up installing. Trying to go back and reinstall Sierra, as many recommend, well... that’s a problem when you don’t have a working Mac and cannot download it from Apple, and a non-Apple PC won‘t download it from their Mac-only download procedure. So, I made an appointment with the Mac store.


I then came across this post, and while I wasn’t interested so much in rolling it back to Sierra, it gives the critical procedure to reinstall a clean High Sierra with all your data and settings cleared out. Diskutil is unaware that High Sierra only wants to install on a partion with a previous old format (e.g. Macintosh HD), and it doesn’t quite know how to reformat a previously formatted APFS partition back to an older format (High Sierra install converts everything to APFS). The way to address is to DELETE the drive (see original post) in the diskutil. I found pressing Option-Command-P-R just after Power-on would get me to the menu with diskutil. By clicking the small minus sign “-“ next to the drive (+ or - shown) I was able to delete the drive (really it’s the working partition), So, I went ahead and deleted it.


Then, I rebooted again into a recovery mode, I tried Option-Command-P-R method, then diskutil again. Apple says that Diskutil will try to detect the type of storage your are formatting, then shows the appropriate format in the format menu:

How to choose between APFS and Mac OS Extended when formatting a disk for Mac - Apple Support

Hence, if it sees APFS, it will only give APFS format options. But here with the disk deleted, there is no format and thus it cannot detect, and the Apple link above indicates that it defaults to Mac OS Extended which “works with all versions of macOS“. So, after another reboot and Option-Command-P-R after start, diskutil then presents older formats for formatting the disk in the menu, and a major obstacle removed. I then chose “Macintosh HD”. It chose to call the partition “Preboot” by default. I rebooted again, pressed Option-Command-P-R after power on, and then I chose to installed High Sierra. It worked this time. Hurray!!!


Command-R may have worked just as well like the original post from Ethoic showed, but I’m not going through this again to test it. They key here is deletion of the drive in the Diskutil, and also key is the understanding that at least this version of High Sierra (10.13.5) - and possibly others - will install only onto legacy/older storage formats and ironically not on APFS format that it was designed to run on!


A clean install of an OS is a tried-and-true useful and popular option for users to clear out a corrupted OS or sell/give it to others. They should make the procedure less tricky or at least better documented, and it shouldn’t be so easy to tank the entire PC to where most will need the Apple store to recover it.


Thanks for the original poster, I thought I might add to it my specific experience in hopes it might help someone not repeat the 2 days of frustration I went through trying a simple and often useful task.

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Jul 17, 2018 11:03 AM in response to Ethoic

This is exiting! My MacbookAir took the evening one day in May as I was updating High Sierra. There I first saw the term APFS system and of course believed everything was OK, as I am no expert. Since then I have not been able to use my MackbookAir (late 2011). I am very satisfied with my MBA, so I don't want to skip it, although I also have a MBP (2015). After that update in May I have not been able to start ANY program, not even system preferences. The dock was filled with question marks, not program symbols. I have been able to see Finder and eventually also seeing all the files, but have not been able to start any program by clicking on the file names. I have used my holidays to try everything that I have found on the internet, and eventually I have deleted the disk by using disk utility after restarting, holding shift, cmd, R. (My son-in-law which is an alleged computer expert, told me to buy a new machine and use my holidays on positive things, but that only annoyed me.) But always there has been the choice of APFS, and no escape to SATA, until I asked the right question in Google and found your fix, Ethoic. So now I am installing High Sierra on my SATA Mac Os extended formatted SSD 256GB. I did not find the minus button in disk utility but chose erase and was given the alternative of formatting the deleted disk by SATA Mac OS extended. Going out of disk utilities, I chose the install Mac Os, but then it was High Sierra, and not Sierra to chose. As I am writing this, only minutes remain until HS will be installed.

My reflection is that Apple has failed to be honest and fair to myself and all you others experiencing this problem. Shame on Apple not giving advice and not making a fix for this problem.

I have three other MacMinis and an iMac (all 2015/fusion/SSD) and the mentioned MBP (SSD) that I have not noticed any problems with at all. So how come this happens to my MBA?

Now the installation is finished and the Apple sign is on the screen of my MBA. Will it go through? 9 minutes remains. Will I get the message "Could not create a Preboot Volume for APFS install" at the end, once more?

Now I have passed through all challenges, and High Sierra is installed on my MBA. Unbelievable!!!

First test is that System Preferences works, and I may access it.

OK, and now my tedious work starts to make my MBA look like the old one did in May this year.

Shame on Apple causing all this work for me, and a lot of thanks to Ethoic for his/her fix. Always grateful. I can't say I love you as I don't know you, but I love your fix. Bowing on my knees. Thank you! Have a nice summer!

Jul 18, 2018 9:30 AM in response to Ceyrah

Okay great. If you created a new disk, erase that one, and if you can try and erase both of the ones at the top (Not the OSX Base Layer) Once you erase the drive, shut down the computer, and try it again. (Option + Command + R)


I honestly had to do this several times and in variations of Option + Command + R as well as Command + R, and Shift + Command + R. Each time I just did the same thing until finally my computer prompted to reinstall OSX Yosemite rather than High Sierra.

Jul 18, 2018 12:00 PM in response to Ethoic

https://youtu.be/SzlekFSLKzM

This is a great link to reset MacBook to factory settings works with os high Sierra on MacBook air (had all the problems as some of the pictures) But it should work and reset. It's okay if it reboots 3x under the apple logo there will be a moment when it should say "installing in...(so much minutes).

Also watch the previous video if needing to downgrade to osX or Sierra.

Dec 6, 2017 9:16 AM in response to RandomGal

No, you don’t have to add a volume after you deleted (not erease it) the drive Macintosh HD you have to go on to internet recovery mode and at the beginning show couldn’t finde any drive so you can follow my previous post and the you will see your drive with name SSD... you have to choose it and select erease and now it iis going to show up the extended journal option.

Dec 11, 2017 3:30 PM in response to Manuelfgarcia

I booted it up in recovery mode and in Disk Utility I tried to add a volume but the only options are AFPS. Journaled is not available. I tried to partition it, all of it - another way of reformatting it. Mac Journaled was available but when I ran the process it said it was stopped and reads:


The volume “Recovery” on disk1s3 couldn’t be unmourned because it is in use by process 0 (kernel). User uploaded file

Dec 11, 2017 9:14 PM in response to macsammy

you have to delete de volume in recovery mode until yo don't seen any volume

User uploaded file

after that in Internet recovery mode (cmd + R + shift) you first have to check if there is some volume or disk (ssd ...) in disk utility and erase it with journal but if there isn't any disk o volume you go out disk utility and press Reinstall MacOS you follow the steps until it ask for HHD so now you go out of this and enter again to Disk Utility and now you will be able to se you disk and areas to as journal. with this steps it works for me and right now I'm using my Mac. I hope it also works for you.

May 6, 2018 2:03 AM in response to RazanMSh

Hi,


You just need to create the bootable USB installer for macOS High Sierra and boot from it.


For creating the bootable USB installer, there are different places on the internet that walk you through the process. Find below a couple of options:


Regardless the option you ended up choosing, you will need:

  • An 8GB capacity (at least) USB drive
  • Another computer; preferably another Mac running recent version of macOS
  • Latest macOS High Sierra Installer; this can be downloaded from the App Store


It's really important that you download the latest version of the macOS High Sierra Installer so that you have better chances to get a successful install.


Once you have the bootable USB installer, you just need to:

  1. Plug your bootable USB installer to your Mac.
  2. Power up (or restart) your Mac and press down the Option key while the Mac boots.
  3. After a few moments, your Mac will display the Startup Manager, which shows the available drives to boot from. Choose "Install macOS High Sierra" to start installation (there's no need to select a network to proceed)


Hope you find this more detailed answer useful!

Jul 8, 2018 5:19 AM in response to Ethoic

Normally, when you have Sierra, and start the downloaded High-Sierra-Installer (in the applications folder), it will do two things: reformat the boot drive to APFS and install HighSierra. No need to go difficult.

It is not required to go the route you did.

BTW: you can install HighSierra without the conversion (from HFS+) to APFS and do that conversion later, but then you do not use the Installer in the Applications folder, but use a specific Terminal command to start the Installer.

When you go to CMD+Alt+R and "Install OS": it will reinstall the original OS. In your case perhaps Sierra, but for older macs it will be older OS, but that will not work well when the drive is already converted to APFS.

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FIX- Could not create a Preboot Volume for APFS install

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