FIX- Could not create a Preboot Volume for APFS install

Right Mac users. If your facing the same problem like me then I suggest you listen up. First don't try to install Mac OS high Sierra again or try anything else. You want to first of delete your drive until you have no drive. Yes I mean no drive. To do this, power off your Mac and then hold command + R and boot up your Mac. This should do the trick. Then delete your drive in disk utility by clicking the minus button on the top right and then enter internet recovery mode by repeating the process though this time adding option and then command + R. Then you will enter the same menu which is mac os utilities and then this time instead of Mac OS High Sierra you will just see Sierra. Go disk utilty and create a disk this time clicking + and make a drive calling it Macintosh HD with the format Mac OS Extended. The fix is your removing the APFS system which is what is confusing the drive which for some reason apple can't figure out them self. Then just click install Mac OS and you should be good to go. Hope your all good and ask anything you need.

MacBook Pro (13-inch, Late 2016, 4 TBT3), macOS High Sierra (10.13)

Posted on Oct 8, 2017 10:06 AM

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Posted on Jul 3, 2018 8:25 PM

My Mac Pro was upgraded to High Sierra Awhile ago automatically. I encountered some problems that were difficult to resolve, not sure High Sierra was responsible, but I decided an erase and clean install of High Sierra was warranted, and so I backed up my data and started the procedure. The diskutil only gave me the option to reformat into an APFS format, so I reformatted it in APFS reasoning High Sierra works on it, so it must be the right format after all, right? Big Mistake!


High Sierra then would not install, it would freeze up while trying to install. Internet install also did not work, and it would often freeze and sometimes give sometimes strange and cryptic error codes trying to install. I even tried a USB Boot disk with High Sierra dmg file designed for new install, and it also froze up installing. Trying to go back and reinstall Sierra, as many recommend, well... that’s a problem when you don’t have a working Mac and cannot download it from Apple, and a non-Apple PC won‘t download it from their Mac-only download procedure. So, I made an appointment with the Mac store.


I then came across this post, and while I wasn’t interested so much in rolling it back to Sierra, it gives the critical procedure to reinstall a clean High Sierra with all your data and settings cleared out. Diskutil is unaware that High Sierra only wants to install on a partion with a previous old format (e.g. Macintosh HD), and it doesn’t quite know how to reformat a previously formatted APFS partition back to an older format (High Sierra install converts everything to APFS). The way to address is to DELETE the drive (see original post) in the diskutil. I found pressing Option-Command-P-R just after Power-on would get me to the menu with diskutil. By clicking the small minus sign “-“ next to the drive (+ or - shown) I was able to delete the drive (really it’s the working partition), So, I went ahead and deleted it.


Then, I rebooted again into a recovery mode, I tried Option-Command-P-R method, then diskutil again. Apple says that Diskutil will try to detect the type of storage your are formatting, then shows the appropriate format in the format menu:

How to choose between APFS and Mac OS Extended when formatting a disk for Mac - Apple Support

Hence, if it sees APFS, it will only give APFS format options. But here with the disk deleted, there is no format and thus it cannot detect, and the Apple link above indicates that it defaults to Mac OS Extended which “works with all versions of macOS“. So, after another reboot and Option-Command-P-R after start, diskutil then presents older formats for formatting the disk in the menu, and a major obstacle removed. I then chose “Macintosh HD”. It chose to call the partition “Preboot” by default. I rebooted again, pressed Option-Command-P-R after power on, and then I chose to installed High Sierra. It worked this time. Hurray!!!


Command-R may have worked just as well like the original post from Ethoic showed, but I’m not going through this again to test it. They key here is deletion of the drive in the Diskutil, and also key is the understanding that at least this version of High Sierra (10.13.5) - and possibly others - will install only onto legacy/older storage formats and ironically not on APFS format that it was designed to run on!


A clean install of an OS is a tried-and-true useful and popular option for users to clear out a corrupted OS or sell/give it to others. They should make the procedure less tricky or at least better documented, and it shouldn’t be so easy to tank the entire PC to where most will need the Apple store to recover it.


Thanks for the original poster, I thought I might add to it my specific experience in hopes it might help someone not repeat the 2 days of frustration I went through trying a simple and often useful task.

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Feb 5, 2018 5:04 PM in response to Ethoic

So have same issue on a Macbook Pro 2017. Managed to delete the Macintosh HD drive ...but on restart I can't add a new drive which seems a little fundamental to getting this fixed. On reboot I get a Container disk show up - I can't see the MAC OS Extended option only APFS which if I do I get the same issue. I can't delete the Container DIsk (no MINUS option shows). How do I get to the option to add the new drive without APFS options? Thank you!

Feb 27, 2018 10:15 AM in response to Ethoic

Thank you so much for this solution. I brought my macbook air to an authorized repair shop because i was having multiple issues installing high sierra. They kept my device there for two weeks and told me they could not repair it and I would have to buy a new one!!!!! The excuse was it was just too old. Really? 2013 models are supposed to be able to perform this update. So I took a Sunday and devoted the day to fixing it myself. This is the only solution that worked for me. I am not a computer expert. Just a SAHM that refuses to be told her perfectly good computer that was working fine one minute is suddenly unusable after trying to install an update apple told me I needed.

Dec 23, 2017 2:02 AM in response to Manuelfgarcia

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Hi. I’m totally new to using Mac and I badly need guidance and support on this. Well, I’m trying to install MacOS in a newly bought 13.3” Macbook Pro with touchbar 2017. Upon installation, problem occured and it didn’t get through stating that it ”could not create a preboot volume for APFS install”. I followed the instructions on how to install by using COMMAND + R, then Disk Utility (including your instruction above), however, under Macintosh HD, the format option is just APFS and the one with APFS encryption. There’s no MacOS extended (Journaled) format. In this regard, what do I have to do to properly install this MacOS in this new Macbook Pro? Thank you very much in advance.

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FIX- Could not create a Preboot Volume for APFS install

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