FIX- Could not create a Preboot Volume for APFS install

Right Mac users. If your facing the same problem like me then I suggest you listen up. First don't try to install Mac OS high Sierra again or try anything else. You want to first of delete your drive until you have no drive. Yes I mean no drive. To do this, power off your Mac and then hold command + R and boot up your Mac. This should do the trick. Then delete your drive in disk utility by clicking the minus button on the top right and then enter internet recovery mode by repeating the process though this time adding option and then command + R. Then you will enter the same menu which is mac os utilities and then this time instead of Mac OS High Sierra you will just see Sierra. Go disk utilty and create a disk this time clicking + and make a drive calling it Macintosh HD with the format Mac OS Extended. The fix is your removing the APFS system which is what is confusing the drive which for some reason apple can't figure out them self. Then just click install Mac OS and you should be good to go. Hope your all good and ask anything you need.

MacBook Pro (13-inch, Late 2016, 4 TBT3), macOS High Sierra (10.13)

Posted on Oct 8, 2017 10:06 AM

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Posted on Jul 3, 2018 8:25 PM

My Mac Pro was upgraded to High Sierra Awhile ago automatically. I encountered some problems that were difficult to resolve, not sure High Sierra was responsible, but I decided an erase and clean install of High Sierra was warranted, and so I backed up my data and started the procedure. The diskutil only gave me the option to reformat into an APFS format, so I reformatted it in APFS reasoning High Sierra works on it, so it must be the right format after all, right? Big Mistake!


High Sierra then would not install, it would freeze up while trying to install. Internet install also did not work, and it would often freeze and sometimes give sometimes strange and cryptic error codes trying to install. I even tried a USB Boot disk with High Sierra dmg file designed for new install, and it also froze up installing. Trying to go back and reinstall Sierra, as many recommend, well... that’s a problem when you don’t have a working Mac and cannot download it from Apple, and a non-Apple PC won‘t download it from their Mac-only download procedure. So, I made an appointment with the Mac store.


I then came across this post, and while I wasn’t interested so much in rolling it back to Sierra, it gives the critical procedure to reinstall a clean High Sierra with all your data and settings cleared out. Diskutil is unaware that High Sierra only wants to install on a partion with a previous old format (e.g. Macintosh HD), and it doesn’t quite know how to reformat a previously formatted APFS partition back to an older format (High Sierra install converts everything to APFS). The way to address is to DELETE the drive (see original post) in the diskutil. I found pressing Option-Command-P-R just after Power-on would get me to the menu with diskutil. By clicking the small minus sign “-“ next to the drive (+ or - shown) I was able to delete the drive (really it’s the working partition), So, I went ahead and deleted it.


Then, I rebooted again into a recovery mode, I tried Option-Command-P-R method, then diskutil again. Apple says that Diskutil will try to detect the type of storage your are formatting, then shows the appropriate format in the format menu:

How to choose between APFS and Mac OS Extended when formatting a disk for Mac - Apple Support

Hence, if it sees APFS, it will only give APFS format options. But here with the disk deleted, there is no format and thus it cannot detect, and the Apple link above indicates that it defaults to Mac OS Extended which “works with all versions of macOS“. So, after another reboot and Option-Command-P-R after start, diskutil then presents older formats for formatting the disk in the menu, and a major obstacle removed. I then chose “Macintosh HD”. It chose to call the partition “Preboot” by default. I rebooted again, pressed Option-Command-P-R after power on, and then I chose to installed High Sierra. It worked this time. Hurray!!!


Command-R may have worked just as well like the original post from Ethoic showed, but I’m not going through this again to test it. They key here is deletion of the drive in the Diskutil, and also key is the understanding that at least this version of High Sierra (10.13.5) - and possibly others - will install only onto legacy/older storage formats and ironically not on APFS format that it was designed to run on!


A clean install of an OS is a tried-and-true useful and popular option for users to clear out a corrupted OS or sell/give it to others. They should make the procedure less tricky or at least better documented, and it shouldn’t be so easy to tank the entire PC to where most will need the Apple store to recover it.


Thanks for the original poster, I thought I might add to it my specific experience in hopes it might help someone not repeat the 2 days of frustration I went through trying a simple and often useful task.

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Nov 2, 2017 2:19 PM in response to Ethoic

Hello everyone, Ethoic you are very right. (if what Ethoic said doesn't work, this is a different approach) I'm placing a few more reinforcements to your statement. I myself have a 2010 mac with a 500 gig Samsung SSD Evo Media hard drive. I had the same issue which came from out of nowhere. I recommend resetting your SMC by pressing shift, control, option, and power all at the same time till you hear your computer boot up two times ( its fine if it starts up three times) for me this didn't work and I had to use a power cable. when it flicked to green I would immediately unplug the cable and it reset my SMC, after this try recovery mode (command and r upon startup) if it still fails like mine did and you have another mac, try to see if your hard drive is the issue by plugging it into that mac and running disk utility in recovery mode. if it recognizes it then you are on the right track, if not then your hard drive is toast and I recommend getting a new one or a replacement. next, you need to erase the hard drive and rewrite it in 'Mac OS Extended Journaled'. Next close out of disk utility and head over to the Reinstall Mac OSX pane, select the old hard drive (this will take a while). The following is optional: you can copy your backup to the hard drive at this time and it should work but you might need to do a little editing to the accounts if you do this with multiple accounts. Finally reinstall the Harddrive into your mac, start her up like you normally would. it should work. also a common issue with replacing the hard drive is many people bump into the screen connection and the screen will look awkward so be sure to be careful with anything and everything when you have the back off, it is wise to clean your fans while you're back there, don't use those aerosol cans of air bc it creates humidity, use alcohol on the end of a cotton swab, clean carefully. make sure you keep track of everything and take care, please. That is all, this is how I repaired my mac and work on other macs. if there are any errors or concerns feel free to reply! 🙂

Nov 2, 2017 5:01 PM in response to amr67

If you cannot create a new one by clicking the plus sign as the text suggests you can open the terminal by closing the dick utility.

In top menu bar select utilities then select Terminal.

When in the terminal write the following.


diskutil eraseDisk JHFS+ MacOS /dev/disk0


Check that you have typed the command correctly with capitals where there should be.


Then press enter.


After the command is complete quit Terminal from the menubar.

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Nov 10, 2017 11:43 AM in response to Ethoic

I followed your directions but the drive could not be added after internet recovery. I found help by clicking on Help in the recovery window, which took me to Apple's instructions for Erasing & Reinstalling. (as follows:)

First choose Help in the Recovery Menu; it will open Safari to a recovery instructions page.

1. Write down the instructions, then quit Safari.

2. Make sure you're connected to the internet.

3. Select Disk Utility, Continue.

4. Select your disk drive in the list on the left, then click erase.

5. Enter a name for your disk, then choose APFS from the format popup menu then click Erase.

One difference: In step 5 Apple says to choose APFS, but I didn't; I left it at the default Mac Extended Journaled, then clicked Erase.

6. Quit Disk Utility.

7. Select reinstall Mac OS, click Continue, then follow the on-screen instructions.


Godspeed and I hope this helps the 159 others with the same issue!

Nov 14, 2017 2:13 PM in response to Ethoic

So, once again, in more understandable language:

Before selling my MacBook Air I removed all files from it. Than I restarted it holding keyboard keys "cmd" and "P" pressed to enter restore mode. The system tried to reinstall Mac OS High Sierra. It has taken approx 40-50 mins, but in the end I saw error message "could not create reboot volume for APFS file system".

Then I rebooted again (holding "cmd" and "P" keys pressed) and saw same options as before. This time I entered the disk utility and erased the bigger drive (with the name "Macintosh HD").

Restarted again (holding the both keys pressed) and entered the "reinstall OS" option. Oh wonder, this time it was not Mac OS Hight Sierra, but OS X Yosemite. But... when I tried to install it, the system asked me to choose the drive, where the OS must be installed, but there was no drive to choose.

Yes, right guess, I entered the disk utility program again and ... just renamed the main drive (named after erasure "disk2") to "Macintosh HD".

Now, without restarting the Macbook, I entered the mode "reinstall OS" and this time I could see the renamed disk (Macintosh HD) to choose it for installation of the OS X Yosemite.

It worked!

Nov 18, 2017 6:35 AM in response to Ethoic

Hi,


have tried all above and none work. So I decided to do "Command + alt + R" when the system boot up, and do a system reinstall, some how it went into Internet Recovery mode and start doing it's stuff. After a long time, the Disk Utilities appeared again, this time select "Reinstall MAC OS X" again and the installation managed to complete successfully.


Hope this help.

Dec 6, 2017 1:19 AM in response to Ethoic

Hi,

Thanks for you post it works for me but with some differences:

1. To delete my drive Maquitosh Hd I pressed command + shift + R and then I followed your instruction

2. Once I deleted my drive I power off my Mac and I boot it pressed Command + R and it boot from internet recovery mode. I don’t know why but it didn’t ask me for my WiFi network (I have a MacBook Pro retina 2015) it took almost 30 minutes to finish.

3. After that I could enter to disk utility but I couldn’t find my drive so I just out of disk utility and enter directly in the option to install a copy o macOS and I click next and next and when I had to choose a drive for the installation there wasn’t I hard drive, so after that I went out of this option and again I enter to disk utility but this time my Drive was there and when I presses in erase It showed the extended journal option for formatted and I chooses this option.

4. After that I was happy but the only concern that I had was that the copy of the macOS that will be installed was macOS high Sierra no macOS Sierra but I proceed with the installation and all end very good I can install macOS Hig Sierra again.

I hope this post works for other people too and apologize me for me English I am not native.

Dec 6, 2017 9:16 AM in response to RandomGal

No, you don’t have to add a volume after you deleted (not erease it) the drive Macintosh HD you have to go on to internet recovery mode and at the beginning show couldn’t finde any drive so you can follow my previous post and the you will see your drive with name SSD... you have to choose it and select erease and now it iis going to show up the extended journal option.

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