FIX- Could not create a Preboot Volume for APFS install

Right Mac users. If your facing the same problem like me then I suggest you listen up. First don't try to install Mac OS high Sierra again or try anything else. You want to first of delete your drive until you have no drive. Yes I mean no drive. To do this, power off your Mac and then hold command + R and boot up your Mac. This should do the trick. Then delete your drive in disk utility by clicking the minus button on the top right and then enter internet recovery mode by repeating the process though this time adding option and then command + R. Then you will enter the same menu which is mac os utilities and then this time instead of Mac OS High Sierra you will just see Sierra. Go disk utilty and create a disk this time clicking + and make a drive calling it Macintosh HD with the format Mac OS Extended. The fix is your removing the APFS system which is what is confusing the drive which for some reason apple can't figure out them self. Then just click install Mac OS and you should be good to go. Hope your all good and ask anything you need.

MacBook Pro (13-inch, Late 2016, 4 TBT3), macOS High Sierra (10.13)

Posted on Oct 8, 2017 10:06 AM

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Posted on Jul 3, 2018 8:25 PM

My Mac Pro was upgraded to High Sierra Awhile ago automatically. I encountered some problems that were difficult to resolve, not sure High Sierra was responsible, but I decided an erase and clean install of High Sierra was warranted, and so I backed up my data and started the procedure. The diskutil only gave me the option to reformat into an APFS format, so I reformatted it in APFS reasoning High Sierra works on it, so it must be the right format after all, right? Big Mistake!


High Sierra then would not install, it would freeze up while trying to install. Internet install also did not work, and it would often freeze and sometimes give sometimes strange and cryptic error codes trying to install. I even tried a USB Boot disk with High Sierra dmg file designed for new install, and it also froze up installing. Trying to go back and reinstall Sierra, as many recommend, well... that’s a problem when you don’t have a working Mac and cannot download it from Apple, and a non-Apple PC won‘t download it from their Mac-only download procedure. So, I made an appointment with the Mac store.


I then came across this post, and while I wasn’t interested so much in rolling it back to Sierra, it gives the critical procedure to reinstall a clean High Sierra with all your data and settings cleared out. Diskutil is unaware that High Sierra only wants to install on a partion with a previous old format (e.g. Macintosh HD), and it doesn’t quite know how to reformat a previously formatted APFS partition back to an older format (High Sierra install converts everything to APFS). The way to address is to DELETE the drive (see original post) in the diskutil. I found pressing Option-Command-P-R just after Power-on would get me to the menu with diskutil. By clicking the small minus sign “-“ next to the drive (+ or - shown) I was able to delete the drive (really it’s the working partition), So, I went ahead and deleted it.


Then, I rebooted again into a recovery mode, I tried Option-Command-P-R method, then diskutil again. Apple says that Diskutil will try to detect the type of storage your are formatting, then shows the appropriate format in the format menu:

How to choose between APFS and Mac OS Extended when formatting a disk for Mac - Apple Support

Hence, if it sees APFS, it will only give APFS format options. But here with the disk deleted, there is no format and thus it cannot detect, and the Apple link above indicates that it defaults to Mac OS Extended which “works with all versions of macOS“. So, after another reboot and Option-Command-P-R after start, diskutil then presents older formats for formatting the disk in the menu, and a major obstacle removed. I then chose “Macintosh HD”. It chose to call the partition “Preboot” by default. I rebooted again, pressed Option-Command-P-R after power on, and then I chose to installed High Sierra. It worked this time. Hurray!!!


Command-R may have worked just as well like the original post from Ethoic showed, but I’m not going through this again to test it. They key here is deletion of the drive in the Diskutil, and also key is the understanding that at least this version of High Sierra (10.13.5) - and possibly others - will install only onto legacy/older storage formats and ironically not on APFS format that it was designed to run on!


A clean install of an OS is a tried-and-true useful and popular option for users to clear out a corrupted OS or sell/give it to others. They should make the procedure less tricky or at least better documented, and it shouldn’t be so easy to tank the entire PC to where most will need the Apple store to recover it.


Thanks for the original poster, I thought I might add to it my specific experience in hopes it might help someone not repeat the 2 days of frustration I went through trying a simple and often useful task.

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Nov 2, 2017 2:19 PM in response to Ethoic

Hello everyone, Ethoic you are very right. (if what Ethoic said doesn't work, this is a different approach) I'm placing a few more reinforcements to your statement. I myself have a 2010 mac with a 500 gig Samsung SSD Evo Media hard drive. I had the same issue which came from out of nowhere. I recommend resetting your SMC by pressing shift, control, option, and power all at the same time till you hear your computer boot up two times ( its fine if it starts up three times) for me this didn't work and I had to use a power cable. when it flicked to green I would immediately unplug the cable and it reset my SMC, after this try recovery mode (command and r upon startup) if it still fails like mine did and you have another mac, try to see if your hard drive is the issue by plugging it into that mac and running disk utility in recovery mode. if it recognizes it then you are on the right track, if not then your hard drive is toast and I recommend getting a new one or a replacement. next, you need to erase the hard drive and rewrite it in 'Mac OS Extended Journaled'. Next close out of disk utility and head over to the Reinstall Mac OSX pane, select the old hard drive (this will take a while). The following is optional: you can copy your backup to the hard drive at this time and it should work but you might need to do a little editing to the accounts if you do this with multiple accounts. Finally reinstall the Harddrive into your mac, start her up like you normally would. it should work. also a common issue with replacing the hard drive is many people bump into the screen connection and the screen will look awkward so be sure to be careful with anything and everything when you have the back off, it is wise to clean your fans while you're back there, don't use those aerosol cans of air bc it creates humidity, use alcohol on the end of a cotton swab, clean carefully. make sure you keep track of everything and take care, please. That is all, this is how I repaired my mac and work on other macs. if there are any errors or concerns feel free to reply! 🙂

Dec 20, 2017 1:49 AM in response to macsammy

Hi sam,

I have the same problem as yours. Here are what I did that worked for me.


- restart using command + R

- disk utility -> click on any drive that allows you to delete.

- restart using option + command + R ==> get you into Internet Recovery Mode

- disk utility -> click on "container disk1" -> partition ->partition again --> choose Mac OS extended

- install OS


Hope this helps! good luck sam

Jan 15, 2018 12:15 AM in response to Huili2102

Update: I ended up going back to disk utility and creating a drive with APFS (All variations of APFS are the only ones available) and make a partition with mac os extended. When that is done, turned off the mac and turned it on again. The mac started up, going through all the installation/set up process. Managed to get to the desktop with no problems, apart from the fact it is a little laggy (My mac is a late 2011 model afterall)

May 28, 2018 6:14 AM in response to Ethoic

I had the same problem and I followed your steps, but in Internet Recovery I still only saw High Sierra, not El Capitan nor Sierra. I also tried to delete and erase the volumes in Recovery mode, but error popped up. The only way I could format the volume to Mac OS Extended was in Internet Recovery. So I pressed Option + Command + R and went to Internet Recovery. Then I erased the volume and reinstalled Mac OS. Everything went fine.

Jul 17, 2018 2:52 PM in response to Ethoic

This worked for me. For those having issues still, follow along closely:

1. Shut down the computer. Once computer is off, press and hold Shift + Command + R while turning computer back on.

2. Once computer is on, go into Disk Utility and 'Erase' the drive Macintosh HD. (Make sure you do not delete the OSX Base Layer Drive) I was also unable to delete any of my drives with the '-'

3. Once HD has been erased, shut down your computer again.

4. Once computer is off, press and hold Command + R while turning computer back on.

5. Once computer is back up, select Reinstall OSX. If High Sierra is still there, it did not work and move on to the next step. If an older OS is there, you may first need to Mount the drive, and make sure you format it as Mac OS Extended not APFS.

6. If you are still being prompted to install High Sierra. Try shutting down the computer again, turning it back on, but this time press and hold Option + Command + R. Once the computer boots back up, see if you are prompted to install Sierra, El Captian, etc.


If these steps don't work for you, I would try it several more times in variations of deleting/readding drives, as well as messing with the +/- for adding and deleting drives as well.

Oct 15, 2017 2:23 AM in response to mr.nau

Yes. Delete all the drives because of the APFS system. Not the OS X System Base Though and Disk Image. You should later boot into recovery mode and click show all drives and and see a drive which you want to click on and make into a Mac OS Extended (Journled). For me I did see a drive resting there so take a good look.

Nov 2, 2017 5:01 PM in response to amr67

If you cannot create a new one by clicking the plus sign as the text suggests you can open the terminal by closing the dick utility.

In top menu bar select utilities then select Terminal.

When in the terminal write the following.


diskutil eraseDisk JHFS+ MacOS /dev/disk0


Check that you have typed the command correctly with capitals where there should be.


Then press enter.


After the command is complete quit Terminal from the menubar.

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Jun 30, 2018 10:09 AM in response to Ethoic

Hi Everyone,


I face same issue. Here is my problem.
1. Erase HDD (at macbookpro 13" touch bar, late 2017) to APFS format.
2. Recover MacOS, then pop up "Could not create a Preboot Volume for APFS install"


Here my solutions

1. Restart and press "option + command + R" to enter Internet Recovery Mode
2. At the current recovery mode, go to utilities to Erase HDD again and with the same APFS format.
3. Now start the Recovery MacOS again.


Everything is going well in Internet Recovery Mode with non pop up. FYI I'm recover directly back to macOS High Sierra.

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