Lots of bugs in ios 11.0.3 on iPhone 6s

darkenrule wrote:

Why you defend so much Apple?, the iOS 11 has fails and is not working with 6s correctly, if you are of the millions of users that don’t have issues, good for you, let the community help to the people with issues

Nonsense, total nonsense.

donalan wrote:

What bothers me is the timing and response by Apple. 11.0.3 blew up a lot of 6s's immediately before the release of 2 new products - a skeptical person would say they did this to drive people to the store to buy new phones rather than waste hours on the phone with customer service.

A true skeptic understands confirmation bias.

I am just a loyal Apple consumer for over a decade - I have no bias against this company. An objective person would not use the implication of confirmation bias as a spurious retort. I hope others speak out about the poor ios release and let Apple know it cost us time and money.

donalan wrote:

I am just a loyal Apple consumer for over a decade - I have no bias against this company. An objective person would not use the implication of confirmation bias as a spurious retort. I hope others speak out about the poor ios release and let Apple know it cost us time and money.

I was not suggesting that you have a bias against Apple. I was suggesting that, because people expect to see problems with an update, the mistakenly attribute any problem that occurs within the general time frame of the update as caused by the update. The other logical fallacy involved here is that correlation proves causality. It doesn't. This was in particular response to this section of your post "11.0.3 blew up a lot of 6s's immediately before the release of 2 new products". You made a statement for which there is no evidence and then proceeded to argue as if it were fact.

donalan wrote:

I am just a loyal Apple consumer for over a decade - I have no bias against this company. An objective person would not use the implication of confirmation bias as a spurious retort. I hope others speak out about the poor ios release and let Apple know it cost us time and money.

Objective observers do not buy into conspiracy theories.

Which of these facts is not objectively true?

"11.0.3 blew up a lot of 6s's immediately before the release of 2 new products" - that statement is 100% factual.

1. From USA Today COT 1, 2017 "iOS 11 killed my battery life. Here's how I finally revived it and you can, too"

2. October 5, 2017 "The analysis from mobile security company Wanderaclaimed the average battery decay for an iPhone running iOS 10 under constant use is 240 minutes. For devices that have upgraded to iOS 11, the decay time is just 96 minutes."

3. iPhone8 release date September 22, 2017

4. iPhone X release date November 3, 2017

5. IOS 11 release date September 19, 2017

Great so you agree on the facts I cited. Now onto the grammar you are interested in -I specified my advise was to '...others with these problems...' therefore the 'your' was referring to 'others' not you. I am glad to see you are curious and open to learning - now we are getting somewhere my friend!

Some people's time is more valuable than others - hour in a store and hour getting there and back is worth more than the current retail value of my 6S to me. Guess it just depends where you are and how much your time is worth. Im glad you have the time to spend visiting Apple retail to correct flawed software upgrades, that is fortunate indeed.

Thanks for the long and tedious reply. I haven't been back for a few days but I see there are 10 more pages of extremely unhappy customers, and still no fix - just more snide comments from people who have lots of points from arse-licking apples product and reputation.

In real terms, although it doesn't seem like it, apple have peaked. There's a groundswell of normal people who are ****** off with the arrogant attitude and more importantly a complete lack of any real new ideas since Jobs died. It's ever decreasing circles - big phone / little phone - once people see through it and get over the iPhone, Apple have got nothing else. And I'm one of many lifetime users - I've always worked on Apple products and always played on Apple products. People will leave with heavy hearts but move they will.

Youaintpunk wrote:

Thanks for the long and tedious reply. I haven't been back for a few days but I see there are 10 more pages of extremely unhappy customers, and still no fix - just more snide comments from people who have lots of points from arse-licking apples product and reputation.

In real terms, although it doesn't seem like it, apple have peaked. There's a groundswell of normal people who are ****** off with the arrogant attitude and more importantly a complete lack of any real new ideas since Jobs died. It's ever decreasing circles - big phone / little phone - once people see through it and get over the iPhone, Apple have got nothing else. And I'm one of many lifetime users - I've always worked on Apple products and always played on Apple products. People will leave with heavy hearts but move they will.

We can just wait and see if your prediction has any truth in it, then we will know that which you claim to.

So you skipped iOS 3 completely? Apparently so and quite a few others. Or you just didn't have the problems that others had and posted about so you just went about your way not worrying about it. Like others are doing with iOS 11.

There is a troll here but I think you've picked the wrong one. I would suggest that if you are truly that busy that you get a flip phone and some time of tablet or perhaps an iPod Touch. For the most part flip phones with their simplicity do not fail. Or you can just let others who have similar problems report them to Apple and then wait for the update that solves the issue you have. Other people probably have more time. Of course their is the possibility that yours isn't actually caused by the iOS itself so no matter how many updates you get your problem will never be solved.

donalan wrote:

...or Apple could just allow us to roll back to earlier releases that worked. Phone worked great immediately before 11.0.3,

Except that, when iOS 11.0.2 was released, there were people who asked to roll back. And, when iOS 11.0.1 came out, there were people who said everything had been fine until then. People have said this about every single update Apple has ever released. There are always people saying everything was perfect until then. So, if one assumes that every single release is that much worse than the last, why does anyone still buy an iPhone? Or, perhaps the problem is a bit more complex than "Everything was fine until <insert your favorite version number>".

Your statement: "People have said this about every single update Apple has ever released. There are always people saying everything was perfect until then. "

My Solution: "Apple could just allow us to roll back to earlier releases that worked."

Seems like we finally agree on something, every Apple iOS update has people unhappy with it stating "Everything was fine until <insert your favorite version number>". Let them roll back the iOS.

donalan wrote:

Your statement: "People have said this about every single update Apple has ever released. There are always people saying everything was perfect until then. "

My Solution: "Apple could just allow us to roll back to earlier releases that worked."

Seems like we finally agree on something, every Apple iOS update has people unhappy with it stating "Everything was fine until <insert your favorite version number>". Let them roll back the iOS.

Sadly, it appears that you missed the point. Perhaps I was unclear. Let me try again. People have always blamed issues on the update without investigating what the real problem is. I'm pretty sure some of the same people who want to go back to iOS 10 because it worked so well said, when iOS 10 came out that they wanted to go back to iOS 9 because iOS 10 was so awful.

The problem is usually not the update. Even if Apple were to allow it, going back to the previous version would most likely not solve the problem.

But, hey, it's your phone, if you'd rather blame the update than try to solve the problem, have at it.

Best of luck.

Can we please get a moderator to close and lock this thread?

The current released version of iOS is 11.2.1. This thread relates to iOS 11.0.3. It is no longer relevant; and the only thing going on here is a lot of flaming and grousing.