Slow Graphics Performance MacOS High Sierra

Am I the only one that witnessing horribly slow graphics performance

and high CPU usage in 10.13?


Any solutions to speed things up?


Youtube videos 1080p are jumpy

Quicklook of 3D models are horrible

System UI animations are jumpy

Very high CPU usage ("windowserver")

VMs are consuming 2X CPU as they did in 10.12

Had a Kernel panic twice already


Did Apple's graphics firmware/driver change destroy the performance of older models??

I can't trust the "updates" anymore. Both on MacOs and iOS sides. They are killing performance.



Using

2.3 GHz Intel Core i7

16 GB 1600 MHz DDR3

NVIDIA GeForce GT 750M 2 GB

Intel Iris Pro 1536 MB

MacBook Pro with Retina display, High Sierra

Posted on Nov 1, 2017 10:43 AM

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Posted on Nov 19, 2017 3:45 PM

It seems that installing the NVIDIA driver works for me. Once installed you get a new NVIDIA preference pane where you can choose to use the NVIDIA driver or the bundled macOS driver. Worth a shot.


For macOS 10.13.0:

http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/126157/en-us


For macOS 10.13.1:

http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/126538/en-us

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Nov 11, 2017 12:51 AM in response to ParhamS

"Given that graphics issues are rampant (and also APFS takes away more than it gives, IMO) I'll probably stay with 10.12 for the foreseeable future. 10.13 really turned me off to upgrading for the 1st time on Mac. (iOS 9 did that for iphone;)"

You CAN stop te conversion to APFS the next time you upgrade. Although Apple does not give that as an option.

Nov 14, 2017 8:34 AM in response to ParhamS

I'm having pretty much the same issue on my early 2013 Retina MacBook Pro with Nvidia GT650m GPU, the onboard graphics seem fine but the discreet GPU runs so slowly. I assume, as everything was fine for me in 10.12, that it is a driver issue and will be sorted soon.


As it is Photoshop is almost unusable and other apps which should benefit from the discreet GPU run so slowly.


link to my thread I started regarding the GT650m.

GT650m slow performance under 10.13 High Sierra


I'll be posting the etrecheck results later tonight.

Nov 23, 2017 12:39 AM in response to Stakker

Hopefully the bug report will be read and actioned by someone.


Initially I was noticing the slowdown in Photoshop and not in anything else, I assumed it was a Photoshop issue, but then I noticed it in other non-Adobe apps and realised it was more a system issue than a software issue.


What I do find, when the slowdown occurs, my GPU memory and GPU processor are being hammered and yet I'm only getting 4-6 FPS, stat menus is displaying the information in my menu bar, although I have to click on the menu to get the FPS.

Dec 6, 2017 10:50 AM in response to Luis Sequeira1

My parallels version is just the previous version. Moreover, I rarely use it. There is nothing wrong about using AppCleaner 3.4. I never had a problem with Sierra 10.12.6. Your recommendation is extreme. Based on my research, the source of the problem is in the mac OS. Apple needs to get the latest drivers from nVidia that support 750M and incorporate them into 10.13.2. I have been waiting for over 4 weeks for Apple to get their act together.

Dec 8, 2017 9:15 AM in response to ParhamS

Last Nvidia driver installed, it's a a little bit better, have tried to downgrade but such a mess and a lost of time. I will wait , oh yeah i will, last time i think, lot of friends start to migrate to windows pcs I'm considering this option more and more seriously now... 😟


Despite the fact that my graphic card was change y apple with a special program ( early 2012 to late 2013 mbp 15" concerned if you have not try that)


Good luck everybody.

Dec 17, 2017 9:23 AM in response to zorinlynx

Wow, I can't believe how much this mantra still holds true.


I've been using a Mac with an AMD chipset (Radeon R9 M395 2 GB) and the performance difference has been *MIND BLOWING*. It doesn't choke all the time like the Nvidia chipset, no freezes or any other issues. This is how MacOS is supposed to feel like!


I am never, ever going to buy a Mac with an Nvidia chipset again. I hope Apple wises up and never includes Nvidia chipsets again until the company releases all the specs necessary to develop proper drivers for them.


It looks like there's no Nvidia in Apple's current lineup so they're definitely spurning them at the moment.

Dec 18, 2017 11:25 AM in response to ParhamS

This is driving me insane.


i installed high sierra a few weeks ago - it totally grinded my CPU to a halt and then completely scrambled the display on boot up so I couldn’t see anything but layers of coloured frantic ‘static like’ distortion.


I painfully reverted back to Sierra again and it went better but only only for 2 weeks. It’s now completely screwed on boot up, doing the same distortion screen every time.


However, I can boot up in safe mode. I’ve done everything I’ve read online to troubleshoot. I’ve Reset all the NVRM , SRC etc. I even did a hardware check to see if the Mac picked up on that....everything was reported fine. I’ve even tried to reduce the ‘windowserver’ tasks and it’s still screwed.

Ps I’m on an early 2015 MacBook Pro 13” retina with intel iris 6100

Dec 18, 2017 11:32 AM in response to Jimmyshortarms

Hi Jimmyshortarms,

Check out my Apple Stack Exchange link I shared earlier, basically, after installing High Sierra, my battery was swollen and it damaged my Macbook hardware, including the screen

I suspect your issue could be from the same cause, but instead of a destroyed battery, the stress might've damaged your CPU/internal-GPU etc.

Sadly I couldn't get my issue recognized yet

Dec 18, 2017 3:50 PM in response to Jimmyshortarms

I’m being told that the high Sierra upgrade has permanently overwritten some firmware or something like that without the option of being able to revert.

Even if the firmware was updated, there have been no reports that the firmware upgrades are anything other than fully backward-compatible.


So the stuff you are hearing is a half-truth, and does not apply to the Hardware problem you are experiencing.


If the problem persists after reverting to Sierra, it is an unfortunate coincidence that it chose that moment to fail. But there is no evidence of a cause-and-effect.

Dec 19, 2017 4:31 AM in response to Luis Sequeira1

It would seem. But MacBook was fine before high Sierra was installed. Only 2 years old.


It slowed up my CPU, - mouse could barely move - then I started getting worse display issues. There’s a huge thread on ‘high Sierra freeze’.


I’m not sure if the installation has caused my components to over heat or something. I just don’t know. Have wiped and started again.


It’s just weird how all this has happened during an update.


I’ll now have to take it in to get fixed. Apparently got to wait 3 weeks. Merry Christmas!

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