Slow Graphics Performance MacOS High Sierra

Am I the only one that witnessing horribly slow graphics performance

and high CPU usage in 10.13?


Any solutions to speed things up?


Youtube videos 1080p are jumpy

Quicklook of 3D models are horrible

System UI animations are jumpy

Very high CPU usage ("windowserver")

VMs are consuming 2X CPU as they did in 10.12

Had a Kernel panic twice already


Did Apple's graphics firmware/driver change destroy the performance of older models??

I can't trust the "updates" anymore. Both on MacOs and iOS sides. They are killing performance.



Using

2.3 GHz Intel Core i7

16 GB 1600 MHz DDR3

NVIDIA GeForce GT 750M 2 GB

Intel Iris Pro 1536 MB

MacBook Pro with Retina display, High Sierra

Posted on Nov 1, 2017 10:43 AM

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Posted on Nov 19, 2017 3:45 PM

It seems that installing the NVIDIA driver works for me. Once installed you get a new NVIDIA preference pane where you can choose to use the NVIDIA driver or the bundled macOS driver. Worth a shot.


For macOS 10.13.0:

http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/126157/en-us


For macOS 10.13.1:

http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/126538/en-us

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Nov 11, 2017 9:52 AM in response to ParhamS

Same Problem with a brand new MacBook Pro with Max specs. Photoshop has become so slow that any image modification takes like 3sec to render. Same with other demanding apps. Such a disaster. It was working great on Sierra. I now need to use my 4k screen with full resolution and have then tiny characters very hard to read.

Sad...

Nov 14, 2017 7:52 AM in response to ParhamS

Thanks to the original poster for this question because I too have been experiencing this for at least a week since upgrading. In my testing I believe it's related to the NVIDIA GeForce GT 750M GPU as well. What's worse is that my work depends on good graphics rendering (WebGL, virtual tours, etc.).


So how do I downgrade back to macOS Sierra? I can't stand this sluggishness any longer.

Nov 14, 2017 7:45 PM in response to ParhamS

My issue is different, but perhaps related to ParhamS's. I have been told that I need to install a new, non corrupted OS and have been considering High Sierra. In point of fact I don't want, or foresee ever wanting to use, much of the new functionality that comes with High Sierra. For me, these new bells and whistles are a potential liability in terms of clogging up the processor with unwanted material. In particular I want to be able to use all of my existing photo editing software and MS Word 2011. Have you had any reports of compatibility issues with from users of older Adobe and Nikon software? The specific programs are Capture NX 2 and View NX2, Adobe Lightroom 5 and Photoshop Elements 10. If High Sierra is not the best option for me, which slightly older version of Sierra would work best with these programs? Thank you for any help you might provide. My machine is a late 2009 iMac with 8GB memory, 4GB Ram and a 3.06 GHz processor.

Nov 15, 2017 7:48 AM in response to ParhamS

ParhamS wrote:

I purchased a Macbook Pro made by Apple. The software and drivers are distributed by Apple. I don't remember choosing NVIDIA vs any other graphics chip. If Apple releases updates to their software, compatibility is their responsibility.


Exactly. If I wanted to mess around with installing 3rd party drivers, I'd have bought a Windows PC. I have work to do. Dealing with esoteric driver issues is the best thing about using a Mac, or at least it used to be.

Nov 15, 2017 8:12 AM in response to Jason Gerry

Jason Gerry wrote:


ParhamS wrote:

I purchased a Macbook Pro made by Apple. The software and drivers are distributed by Apple. I don't remember choosing NVIDIA vs any other graphics chip. If Apple releases updates to their software, compatibility is their responsibility.


Exactly. If I wanted to mess around with installing 3rd party drivers, I'd have bought a Windows PC. I have work to do. Dealing with esoteric driver issues is the best thing about using a Mac, or at least it used to be.

Installing 3rd party drivers is not the solution.

Nov 20, 2017 3:58 AM in response to editkid

I have been keeping the user folder on a seperate partition so I can do quick reinstalls/repairs to the OS partition


10.13 decided to change the partion system & OS volume to APFS. So downgrading involved copying everything to an external drive, formatting & repartitioning in recovery/install media & later copying stuff back. Time machine might have been simpler, but would take as much time or more to reatore.


I keep the last 4 versions of OSX as .app & DMG just in case. Apple has made me all paranoid now.

Dec 5, 2017 9:54 AM in response to ParhamS

Hi Everybody ,


i'm here for the same reasons that ParhamS had exposed before.


My mac is very slow since the High Sierra update, from starting the computer to execute simple multi tasks (seems that it's always related to the GPU).


I had done all the "necessary" to solve the problem, the NVRAM and PRAM reset, the reinstallation of High Sierra, nothing changes. That was with an apple employee by phone.


Hope that there is a solution for that. After spending 2600€ in this machine, i start to highly regret the fiability of my device. 😐


Cheers 😎


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Informations matérielles :ⓘ

MacBook Pro (Retina 15 pouces, début 2013)

[Les caractéristiques techniques] - [Le guide de l’utilisateur] - [Garantie & service]

MacBook Pro - modèle : MacBookPro10,1

1 2,7 GHz Intel Core i7 (i7-3740QM) CPU: 4-core

16 GB RAM Pas extensible

BANK 0/DIMM0

8 GB DDR3 1600 MHz ok

BANK 1/DIMM0

8 GB DDR3 1600 MHz ok

Handoff/Airdrop2: disponible

Réseau sans fil :
en0 : Inconnu

Batterie : Santé = Satisfaisant - Nombre de cycles = 605

Quota iCloud : 4.87 Go disponible


Informations vidéo :ⓘ

Intel HD Graphics 4000 - VRAM : 1536 Mo

NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M - VRAM : 1 Go

Color LCD 2880 x 1800

PLE2483H-DP 1920 x 1080 @ 60 Hz


Informations des disques :ⓘ

APPLE SSD SD512E disk0: (500,28 Go) (SSD - TRIM: Oui)

[Afficher le rapport SMART]

EFI (disk0s1 - MS-DOS FAT32) <non monté>
[EFI] : 210 Mo

(disk0s2) <non monté>
[Conteneur APFS]: 500.07 Go


Informations USB :ⓘ

USB20Bus

hub_device

Apple Inc. FaceTime HD Camera (Built-in)

USB20Bus

hub_device

hub_device

Apple Inc. Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad

Apple Inc. BRCM20702 Hub

Apple Inc. Bluetooth USB Host Controller

USB30Bus

MOSART Semi. 2.4G Keyboard Mouse


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Apple Inc. thunderbolt_bus

Apple Inc. Thunderbolt to Gigabit Ethernet Adapter


Disques virtuels :ⓘ

Macintosh HD (disk1s1 - APFS) /
[Startup] : 500.07 Go (206.96 Go libre)

Crypté : Oui (Déverrouillé)

Disque physique : disk0s2 500.07 Go (206.96 Go libre)

(disk1s2) <non monté>
[Preboot]: 500.07 Go

Disque physique : disk0s2 500.07 Go

(disk1s3) <non monté>
[Recovery]: 500.07 Go

Disque physique : disk0s2 500.07 Go

(disk1s4) /private/var/vm
[VM]: 500.07 Go

Disque physique : disk0s2 500.07 Go

Little Snitch 4.0.4 (disk2s1 - HFS+) /Volumes/Little Snitch 4.0.4
: 134 Mo (57 Mo libre)

Disque physique : Disk Image 134 Mo (57 Mo libre)


Logiciels ** système :ⓘ

macOS High Sierra
10.13.1 (17B1003) - Temps écoulé depuis le démarrage : moins d’une heure


Fichiers de configuration :ⓘ

/etc/hosts - Nombre : 17


Gatekeeper :ⓘ

Mac App Store et développeurs identifiés


Nettoyage :ⓘ

/Library/LaunchDaemons/com.adobe.adobeupdatedaemon.plist

/Library/Application Support/Adobe/Adobe Desktop Common/ElevationManager/AdobeUpdateDaemon

Logiciel non trouvé !

Un fichier orphelin trouvé. [Nettoyer]


Extensions ** noyau :ⓘ

/Library/Extensions

[Engagé] at.obdev.nke.LittleSnitch (4.0.3 - SDK 10.11) [Rechercher]

[Engagé] com.Logitech.Control Center.HID Driver (3.9.1 - SDK 10.8) [Rechercher]

[Engagé] com.malwarebytes.mbam.rtprotection (3.1 - SDK 10.12) [Rechercher]

[Engagé] com.nvidia.CUDA (1.1.0) [Rechercher]

[Désengagé] com.tascam.usb2audio.driver (3.00d8 - SDK 10.7) [Rechercher]


/System/Library/Extensions

[Désengagé] com.Logitech.Unifying.HID Driver (1.3.0 - SDK 10.8) [Rechercher]

[Engagé] com.hzsystems.terminus.driver (4) [Rechercher]

[Désengagé] com.kaspersky.kext.klif (2.2.1d19) [Rechercher]

[Désengagé] com.macvide.driver.MacVideAudioConnectorDriver (1.0.0) [Rechercher]

[Désengagé] com.roxio.BluRaySupport (1.1.6) [Rechercher]

[Désengagé] de.rme-audio.driver.FirefaceUSB (1.87 - SDK 10.2) [Rechercher]

[Désengagé] se.coolbook.driver2 (2.1.5) [Rechercher]


~/Library/Services/ToastIt.service/Contents/MacOS

[Désengagé] com.roxio.TDIXController (2.0) [Rechercher]


Agents de lancement systèmes :ⓘ

[Désengagé] 8 tâches d’Apple

[Engagé] 174 tâches d’Apple

[En marche] 106 tâches d’Apple


Daemons de lancement systèmes :ⓘ

[Désengagé] 37 tâches d’Apple

[Engagé] 182 tâches d’Apple

[En marche] 111 tâches d’Apple


Agents de lancement :ⓘ

[En marche] at.obdev.LittleSnitchHelper.plist (Objective Development Software GmbH - installé 2017-12-05) [Rechercher]

[En marche] at.obdev.LittleSnitchUIAgent.plist (Objective Development Software GmbH - installé 2017-12-05) [Rechercher]

[Désengagé] com.adobe.AAM.Updater-1.0.plist (Adobe Systems, Inc. - installé 2017-01-18) [Rechercher]

[Désengagé] com.adobe.ARMDCHelper.cc24aef4a1b90ed56a725c38014c95072f92651fb65e1bf9c8e43c37a2 3d420d.plist (Adobe Systems, Inc. - installé 2017-01-12) [Rechercher]

[Engagé] com.hp.help.tocgenerator.plist (? 11d191c4 a5335bcc - installé 2012-02-08) [Rechercher]

[En marche] com.malwarebytes.mbam.frontend.agent.plist (Malwarebytes Corporation - installé 2017-12-05) [Rechercher]

[Échec] com.nvidia.CUDASoftwareUpdate.plist (NVIDIA Corporation - installé 2017-10-19) [Rechercher]

[Engagé] com.oracle.java.Java-Updater.plist (? 7231d7c 72ac4dde - installé 2017-12-04) [Rechercher]

[En marche] de.rme-audio.firefaceUSBAgent.plist (? d66a84c6 84ed62b3 - installé 2013-09-05) [Rechercher]


Daemons de lancements :ⓘ

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[Engagé] com.adobe.ARMDC.Communicator.plist (Adobe Systems, Inc. - installé 2017-01-12) [Rechercher]

[Engagé] com.adobe.ARMDC.SMJobBlessHelper.plist (Adobe Systems, Inc. - installé 2017-01-12) [Rechercher]

[Engagé] com.adobe.SwitchBoard.plist (? 856489a3 0 - installé 2013-10-09) [Rechercher]

[Désengagé] com.adobe.adobeupdatedaemon.plist (? f00845ea 0 - installé 2017-01-16) [Rechercher] - /Library/Application Support/Adobe/Adobe Desktop Common/ElevationManager/AdobeUpdateDaemon : Logiciel non trouvé

[Engagé] com.adobe.fpsaud.plist (? 2afb3af7 a56d5fc2 - installé 2017-10-26) [Rechercher]

[Engagé] com.google.keystone.daemon.plist (Google, Inc. - installé 2017-10-13) [Rechercher]

[Engagé] com.macpaw.CleanMyMac3.Agent.plist (MacPaw Inc. - installé 2017-12-04) [Rechercher]

[Engagé] com.malwarebytes.HelperTool.plist (Malwarebytes Corporation - installé 2016-06-26) [Rechercher]

[En marche] com.malwarebytes.mbam.rtprotection.daemon.plist (Malwarebytes Corporation - installé 2017-12-05) [Rechercher]

[En marche] com.malwarebytes.mbam.settings.daemon.plist (Malwarebytes Corporation - installé 2017-12-05) [Rechercher]

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(/Applications/CleanMyMac 3.app/Contents/MacOS/CleanMyMac 3 Menu.app)

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LoginHelper SMLoginItem - Masqué (Apple, Inc. - installé 2017-12-04)

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RealPlayer Plugin: Inconnu

AdobePDFViewerNPAPI: 17.012.20098 (installé 2017-12-04) [Rechercher]

FlashPlayer-10.6: 27.0.0.187 (installé 2017-12-04) [Rechercher]

DivXBrowserPlugin: 1.2 (installé 2006-11-29) [Rechercher]

Silverlight: 5.1.40728.0 (installé 2017-12-04) [Rechercher]

QuickTime Plugin: 7.7.3 (installé 2017-12-04)

Flash Player: 27.0.0.187 (installé 2017-12-04) [Rechercher]

googletalkbrowserplugin: 5.41.3.0 (installé 2015-12-11) [Rechercher]

iPhotoPhotocast: 6.0 (installé 2007-03-19)

AdobePDFViewer: 17.012.20098 (installé 2017-12-04) [Rechercher]

CANONiMAGEGATEWAYDL: 2.1.0.1 (installé 2016-05-24) [Rechercher]

PepperFlashPlayer: 27.0.0.187 (installé 2017-11-14) [Rechercher]

CANONiMAGEGATEWAYLI: 2.1.0.1 (installé 2006-04-21) [Rechercher]

ContentUploaderPlugin: 1.0 (installé 2006-11-29) [Rechercher]

Mozillaplug: 1.0 (installé 2009-04-30)


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fbplugin_1_0_3: Inconnu (installé 2016-05-24) [Rechercher]


Extensions de Safari :ⓘ

[Activée] DuckDuckGo - DuckDuckGo - http://duckduckgo.com (installé 2017-03-11)

[Activée] IncognIt VPN Switcher - IncogniTeam Ltd. - http://www.incogniteam.com (installé 2016-09-02)

[Activée] Shortly - Zhusee (ZZHC) - http://zzhc.org/shortly/ (installé 2015-11-27)

[Activée] Download Shuttle - FIPLAB Ltd - http://fiplab.com (installé 2015-07-12)

[Désengagée] Clean Links for Google - Dennis Umetzu - http://www.umetzu.com (installé 2015-11-27)

[Activée] Incognito - Orbicule - http://www.orbicule.com/incognito/ (installé 2013-06-01)

[Activée] Ghostery - GHOSTERY, Inc. - https://www.ghostery.com/ (installé 2016-09-02)

[Activée] Adblock Plus - Eyeo GmbH - https://adblockplus.org/ (installé 2017-01-02)

[Activée] AdBlock - BetaFish, Inc. - https://getadblock.com (installé 2017-11-27)

[Désengagée] Criptext Mail - Criptext Inc - https://criptext.com (installé 2016-07-23)

[Désengagée] UTM Stripper - Sean Graham - http:///github.com/grahams/safari-utm-stripper (installé 2016-07-23)


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DVCPROHDAudio: 1.2 (installé 2005-04-05)


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CUDA Preferences (installé 2017-10-19) [Rechercher]

Flash Player (installé 2017-10-26) [Rechercher]

Java (installé 2017-12-04) [Rechercher]


Time Machine :ⓘ

Time Machine n’est pas configuré !


Utilisation ** processeur par opération :ⓘ

18%
WindowServer

16%
Little Snitch Network Monitor

16%
Opera Helper

10%
kernel_task

7%
RTProtectionDaemon


Utilisation de la RAM par opération :ⓘ

1.22 Go
kernel_task

443 Mo Opera Helper

378 Mo WindowServer

326 Mo Little Snitch Network Monitor

314 Mo Opera Helper


Utilisation ** réseau par opération :ⓘ

Entrée Sortie Nom de l’opération

5 Mo 2 Mo Opera

15 Ko 14 Ko mDNSResponder

11 Ko 14 Ko apsd

7 Ko 2 Ko cloudd

1 Ko 844 o netbiosd


Utilisation de l’énergie par opération :ⓘ

17.98 WindowServer

14.54 Little Snitch Network Monitor

8.10 Opera Helper

5.50 Messages


Informations de la mémoire virtuelle :ⓘ

7.51 Go
RAM disponible

2.66 Go
RAM libre

8.49 Go
RAM utilisée

4.85 Go
Fichiers en cache

62 Mo Fichier d’échange utilisé


Installations de logiciel (30 derniers jours) :ⓘ

Adobe Acrobat Reader DC (17.012.20098):
(installé 2017-11-09)

MacBooster 6:
(installé 2017-11-14)

Adobe Flash Player:
(installé 2017-11-14)

Adobe Pepper Flash Player:
(installé 2017-11-14)

Malwarebytes for Mac:
(installé 2017-11-14)

CUDA 9.0:
(installé 2017-11-18)

CUDA 9.0:
(installé 2017-11-18)

Shazam: 1.2.5 (installé 2017-12-04)

CUDA 9.0:
(installé 2017-12-05)

CUDA 9.0:
(installé 2017-12-05)

Malwarebytes for Mac:
(installé 2017-12-05)


La liste des installations peut ne pas être complète.


Événements ** diagnostic (3 dernier jours si pas grave):ⓘ

2017-12-05 17:41:16 La cause ** dernier arrêt : 0 - Coupure de courant


It maybe an issue that occurs with a kernel task that uses 168 threads, wich seems very very high. here's a caption from my system report


User uploaded file


Thanks for you help everybody !



Dec 6, 2017 11:39 AM in response to Luis Sequeira1

Cleanmymac is notorious for all the trouble it causes.

I don't know where you saw "Cleanmymac" on that report. That is a software made by MacPaw.

What IS present is AppCleaner, which I have used for years without a single issue.


Reminds me of that movie, My Ft Greek Wedding. The father recommended Windex for everything.


We are constantly told that people here don't work for Apple, but some of the responses sound very much like level 1 technical help some companies provide before transferring to an actual tech support.


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Recommending a reinstall of 10.13???

That is a cruel way of wasting someone's time when most people even on this threat have reported is not a solution (that includes me)

The issue is at the level of OS/driver/implementation. Why is an older version of Parallels being blamed? Is there ANY evidence for older Parallels causing this specific issue?


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I honestly don't know what "level" n means at this point.

Dec 7, 2017 9:32 PM in response to Fliz

I would recommend anyone with this issue (particularly MacBookPros from 2013/2014 with NVidia GT 650/750M) to file official support requests and bug reports (if you have a developer account).


When I contacted Apple about this several months ago they had not recognised it as an issue. The more people they have reporting it, the more likely it is to be actioned.


FYI: The bug I filed in the bug reporter has recently been marked as "Closed" (it was first marked as a duplicate, but the report that my bug duplicated has been closed too, which should mean that it has been fixed. Will believe it when I see it).

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