Slow Graphics Performance MacOS High Sierra

Am I the only one that witnessing horribly slow graphics performance

and high CPU usage in 10.13?


Any solutions to speed things up?


Youtube videos 1080p are jumpy

Quicklook of 3D models are horrible

System UI animations are jumpy

Very high CPU usage ("windowserver")

VMs are consuming 2X CPU as they did in 10.12

Had a Kernel panic twice already


Did Apple's graphics firmware/driver change destroy the performance of older models??

I can't trust the "updates" anymore. Both on MacOs and iOS sides. They are killing performance.



Using

2.3 GHz Intel Core i7

16 GB 1600 MHz DDR3

NVIDIA GeForce GT 750M 2 GB

Intel Iris Pro 1536 MB

MacBook Pro with Retina display, High Sierra

Posted on Nov 1, 2017 10:43 AM

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Posted on Nov 19, 2017 3:45 PM

It seems that installing the NVIDIA driver works for me. Once installed you get a new NVIDIA preference pane where you can choose to use the NVIDIA driver or the bundled macOS driver. Worth a shot.


For macOS 10.13.0:

http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/126157/en-us


For macOS 10.13.1:

http://www.nvidia.com/download/driverResults.aspx/126538/en-us

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Nov 3, 2017 1:26 PM in response to ParhamS

This is highly unusual after an upgrade of the OS.

Something is wrong, but without any information it is difficult to point to a solution.

That is why you got the "generic response".

Instead of us scratching our heads and ask you questions about your mac and software, why not make it easier for us to help you: make an etrecheck list and post it here:

etrecheck.com

Nov 10, 2017 1:35 PM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

Grant Bennet-Alder wrote:

The performance shortcomings are similar to memory leaks (graphics memory leak?)

... there is said to be a memory leak problem in graphics, fixed in 10.13.1, available a few days ago.


There was a memory leak fixed in the WindowServer process (which was very noticeable), but the performance is still poor. There is definitely something else wrong.


After chatting to Apple support, my main concern is this doesn't seem to be a well known issue, despite the number of people on forums talking about it.


I think I'm going to just revert to Sierra.

Nov 11, 2017 3:31 AM in response to Lexiepex

I dont understand the insistence that the issue is not due to the most likely cause.


The GPU performance issue may be limited to certain nvidia series and therefore is not wide spread.

If thats the case, it is still a MacOS/driver issue, not a hardware one, as its working very well under 10.12 now.


I had hear about possibility to bypass APFS. But that may end soon. Really didnt like its limitations for backing up cloning purposes.


Honestly, after using it for weeks, I cannot justify going back to 10.13. Maybe 10.12 is a nice parking spot for a 2013-2014 MBP.

Nov 21, 2017 12:35 AM in response to ParhamS

I installed the nvidia web driver last night, no improvement at all, in fact, running 'PredictWind' istat menu showed the frame rate as only 4fps compared to 6fps with the standard apple driver, so it looks like it was probably worse.


Uninstalled the nvidia web driver and I'm back to normal (bad).


Wait for the next update I reckon, if that's no good, try a clean install of 10.13, and if that's no better, back to 10.12.


MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Early 2013)
2,4 GHz Intel Core i7

16 GB 1600 MHz DDR3

Nvidia GeForce GT 650M 1GB & Intel HD4000 1536MB

Nov 22, 2017 1:10 PM in response to ParhamS

Before I did a full revert of my machine, I booted Sierra using target mode from another MacBook (running Sierra). It at least let me confirm that the change would be worth it. Previously I have done experiments with new macOS iterations by installing them on external SSDs instead of my machine.


I recommend trying either of these options before attempting a full revert, so at least then you will know if it will fix the issue.

Dec 5, 2017 10:20 AM in response to Jean-Guez

kernel task using 168 threads is fine.Mine is using 194 and working great.


Your well protected mac has built-in Virus protection called X-Protect. It does not need a third-party so-called anti-Virus to make a Big Show of reading all your files looking for antique Windows viruses and make your Mac unstable and burn through it resources:

[Désengagé] com.kaspersky.kext.klif (2.2.1d19) [Rechercher]

Also, you have seen what is coming and going on your Mac. It is time to remove the very invasive and trouble-making Little snitch.

Dec 5, 2017 1:23 PM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

I agree that NVIDIA has a horrible reputation when it come to their drivers. Linus Torvalds said it best.


On the other hand, the hardware and SOFTWARE is distributed by Apple.

Apple has been more than willing to withhold features for older iPhones when it releases iOS upgrades.

QC performed or not, they released 10.13 for these devices without correct functioning graphics, and as of now, have not released a fix.

We are all Apple fans, one way or another, but I will not blame NVIDIA for release of 10.13.

com.google.keystone.daemon.plist was on Jean-Guez's report. I agree, Google software is spyware by nature.


I'm not sure if Time Machine backup would allow restore from 10.13 to 10.12, that would make life easy.

I did it the hard way by fresh install and copying prefs/profile/support files manually. Worked great, but not practical.


Lesson for me:

Dont buy systems with NVIDIA chips

Don't be impulsive on upgrades

Ignore upgrade notifications

Jan 26, 2018 6:52 AM in response to edjonesy

The latest update didn't help.

To refresh the memories, I have a 13 inch Macbook pro mid 2010 with solid state harddrive and 8 GB ram.

Sometimes I couldn't even move the curser...videos were lagging badly, etc.

I just created a bootable flashdrive, wiped clean my harddrive and re-installed Yosomite (I'm sure it would work as well with El Capitain or Sierra, but I always liked Yesomite with my old MBP).

Everything is back to normal, as fast as always.

I like my MBP. System loads now in twenty seconds (thanks to solid state hard drive) and no more issues with videos. etc.

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