WiFi *on* in airplane mode - as designed?!

On my iPad Mini2 Wi-Fi running iOS 11.1, the iPad can be in airplane mode AND connected to WiFi at the same time.


This is contradictory, surely. If it's connected to WiFi, then it's not in airplane mode, by definition.


I recently submitted the issue as described below to the Apple Bug Reporter. It has been closed by engineering as "operating as designed".


What is the "design" here? Can anybody help me understand the logic behind this?

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Here's the issue I submitted to Apple:

When turning on wi-fi while in airplane mode, iPad appears to stay in airplane mode even when WiFi is on. Further, WiFi can remain on and connected in airplane mode.


Steps to Reproduce:

1. Enable airplane mode

2. Enable WiFi


Expected Results:

Airplane mode off, WiFi on


Actual Results:

Both airplane mode and WiFi are on - see attached screenshot


Further info:

After the steps above, it is possible for WiFi to remain connected after switching back into airplane mode. This does not seem always to happen, however.

iPad mini 2 Wi-Fi, iOS 11.1

Posted on Nov 4, 2017 1:58 PM

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Posted on Nov 5, 2017 2:24 AM

It's working as designed e.g. Use Airplane Mode on your iPhone, iPad, iPod touch, and Apple Watch - Apple Support :

Airplane mode turns off the wireless features on your device so that you comply with airline regulations.

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If the airline allows it, you can use Wi-Fi and Bluetooth while in Airplane mode. You just need to turn them on separately. On your iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch, you can turn on Wi-Fi or Bluetooth with Control Center. Open Control Center from the Home screen and tap User uploaded file or User uploaded file. You can also go to Settings > Wi-Fi or Settings > Bluetooth. To use Wi-Fi and Bluetooth on your Apple Watch, just turn off Airplane Mode.

If you turn on Wi-Fi or Bluetooth while you're in Airplane mode, they will be on the next time you use Airplane mode, unless you turn them off while in Airplane mode.

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Nov 5, 2017 2:24 AM in response to oology

It's working as designed e.g. Use Airplane Mode on your iPhone, iPad, iPod touch, and Apple Watch - Apple Support :

Airplane mode turns off the wireless features on your device so that you comply with airline regulations.

...

If the airline allows it, you can use Wi-Fi and Bluetooth while in Airplane mode. You just need to turn them on separately. On your iPhone, iPad, or iPod touch, you can turn on Wi-Fi or Bluetooth with Control Center. Open Control Center from the Home screen and tap User uploaded file or User uploaded file. You can also go to Settings > Wi-Fi or Settings > Bluetooth. To use Wi-Fi and Bluetooth on your Apple Watch, just turn off Airplane Mode.

If you turn on Wi-Fi or Bluetooth while you're in Airplane mode, they will be on the next time you use Airplane mode, unless you turn them off while in Airplane mode.

Nov 5, 2017 5:50 AM in response to oology

Since the original iPhone in 2007, airplane mode has always worked this way. There is nothing new at all in the behavior of iOS 11 in this regard. Users have always had the ability to re-enable just wifi or bluetooth once airplane mode was switched on. Many if not all other smart cellular telephones do the exact same thing.


If the FAA was not alight with it, they’d have spoken out about it a decade ago.

Nov 5, 2017 3:27 AM in response to Mac_slide

Ability to turn Wifi back on after airplane mode activated has been in iOS for just ever !


Similarly you CAN do the same with Android powered phone - The prime radio to be turned off are the Mobile GSM 3G/2G transmitters.

WiFi is NOT the concern and many airlines provide WiFi onboard today and many more adding it all time - its saving airlines millions to remove IFE equipment in weight maintenance and reduced fire risks whilst adding an additional revenue stream to their bow.

BTW the radio interference risks are overblown anyway and a number of European and US carriers have installed simple suppressors and received FAA/EASA exceptions on specified aircraft that allows airplane mode to be completely switched off in cruise with GSM telephone calls enabled as well

Nov 6, 2017 10:04 AM in response to oology

I’ve had iPhones as my only telephone since 2008 and you could always re-enable the individual radios for wifi and Bluetooth after airplane mode was invoked. What was new back around iOS 8 was that the GPS receiver also remains active in airplane mode.


It never made sense to power GPS off anyway since it doesn’t transmit anything at all, but earlier versions of iOS did power it off in airplane mode. Which made off the grid hikers, boaters and so forth annoyed 😁


I don’t understand why you think it’s a bad design. If any regulators had any issues with they’d have enacted rules to ban all manufacturers from doing it. As I mentioned I don’t actually know of a smart phone that doesn’t let you individually re-enable wifi and/or BT once airplane mode is switched on, be it an iOS, Android or Windows smart phone.

Nov 4, 2017 3:06 PM in response to oology

I think it started that way in 11.

There's no problem.

From the screen it does not really turn them off, you have to go to the settings to do that.

You can have with cellular service on with or without wifi connected and you can have

airplane mode the same by manually selecting it. It aids in connecting to the cloud but more importantly for me for wifi calling. I use wifi calling with bad cell coverage OR when I am out of the country, I also use it to surf the web and use social media like FB.

Nov 5, 2017 2:28 AM in response to King_Penguin

Thanks - I've tested this on my iPhone 6s and am seeing the same behaviour as on my iPad, so it does indeed appear to be by design.


Unusually for Apple, I think this design is TERRIBLE.


Surely if wifi is on, the device simply isn't in airplane mode any more. So when a radio is turned on while in airplane mode, then airplane mode should be automatically turned off.


The current design is like having a car with a light that indicates the doors are open, which stays on when all the doors are closed. What use would that be?! The doors cannot all be simultaneously open and closed.

Nov 5, 2017 4:52 AM in response to Mac_slide

Given that the risk is associated with fly by wire is theoretical in nature and low risk cross wire radio interference and simple suppressors have resolved the issue sufficiently to satisfy the FAA and EASA on specified Boeing and Airbus equipement albeit in the cruise i will willing to attest that its overblown


Again those risks are associated with GSM Spectrum transmittions and not all radio frequencies.


Indeed in the large fleet of Boeing classic frames using solenoids rods and cables actuator almost certain never existed in the first place. Airbus equipment were more probably more vulnerable all the long.


BTW have a degree in avionics myself.

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