Amazon winner pop ups on my iPhone

I posted a link to a solution. Is that being dismissive and counterproductive? And I also pointed out the flaw in a proposed solution. Is that being counterproductive? What about my post was rude? Yours was, however.

UPDATE: I just realized you replied to a post I made SIX MONTHS AGO, that solved the problem SIX MONTHS AGO before the situation changed. Not the post that was right above your screed.

.....apparently I can just wait 5 minutes for someone to become triggered and they’ll combine all the information in one post.

Much easier than browsing through all those comments. Thank you.

Your response, to my response, to his response..... super clever.

.....apparently I can just wait 5 minutes for someone to become triggered and they’ll combine all the information in one post.

Not quite. That happens because, such as yourself, you didn't bother to read anything beyond the first page. If you had read this entire topic, you'd have noticed there are many posts just like yours - people who didn't bother reading in far enough to find the current solution. The instant gratification thing that if not found, somehow makes it okay for you to be rude. And yes, you are being rude. Go back and read your responses.

That leaves two options for folks who are actually trying to help others. Either tell them to read the whole topic (or a particular page). Or, once again, explain it instead of making the next griping soul search for the answer.

But if folks such as yourself want to be lazy, then we should be, too, and just tell you to go back and read. But then I'm sure we would once again be accused of being dismissive instead of helping.

I can block these things in Windows with a simple addition to the firewall settings, among other more specific solutions. Linux has more robust means. Even my limited experience with MacOS gives me belief this is a simple fix.

Third party support for iOS is severely limited to using only the APIs already in place in the safari browser, unless you use older, non-supported versions of them that are no longer available in the App Store. This makes them no more useful than the pop up blocker that comes with safari, but taking up extra resources.

Your redundant repetition of browsers is unneeded, as I am aware of the difference between system-level and program-level execution.

As for Android users, that is irrelevant, but as I stated, they DO offer solutions for these pop ups, even if users are forced to learn a little something about their devices to accomplish it. I assume Windows phones do, as well, but have no personal experience with them.

No, I refer to his idea that avoiding popular websites that many people use is viable. Those who use those websites will find that it is not. To go to absurd ends, by his idea, if you simply never accessed the internet again, you would not have problems with this.

The third party apps have recently had an Apple-required lockdown to using only their own existing APIs, making them as useless as the included pop up blocker in safari.

As for controlling the "vastness of the internet", I never suggested they did. I simply stated they could provide users with better tools to do so on their own devices. I see how you could assume that is what I meant when I spoke of their economic strength, but I intended that to mean using their considerable market share as a means to effect consumer protection at a more political level than an engineering act.

As an "avid PC user", did you not learn ways to protect your information without beating yourself in the head, or was it too much to ask that you educate yourself a bit about the device you were using? Do you simply drive your car until it stops, or have you (supppsedly) easily learned upkeep such as maintenance, upgrading older parts, and filling it with gas? There's no need to be derogatory or demeaning. Clearly my first response to Lawrence was meant tongue in cheek, and I even agreed that beating your head against a swarm of ignorance is useless, but you guys seem to think that an actual and truly condescending tone is a proper response. I expected better from Apple users. If this is any indication of the community, I might as well be talking with those "PC Master Race" jack legs.

Thank you, this is my point exactly. Android users may experience similar issues, but at least they provide users with the means to solve them, even if it requires some work, not just suggesting they grab some unknown third-party app that may or may not work while sucking up resources.

Yes, precisely. Lawrence seems to think everyone who disagrees is bashing Apple for not being a software god. I totally understand they are not capable of policing the entire internet, or writing one line of code that will eternally provide protection against all malicious ads. As you say, it is a constant race between opposing factions of programs. My point is that other OS providers offer tools for those of us interested in protecting our devices beyond fancy cases and screen covers. Apple *seems* to be uninterested in taking even meager system-level measures to prevent users from effectively self-propagating their own problems, on what is supposed to be one of the most user-friendly devices made.

I don't blame them for malicious ads or other dirty code in the internet, I blame them for not giving me more control over how my device interprets the data from it.

My, you are on a tear. With a downright absurd idea of how computers work. I love this one:

or writing one line of code that will eternally provide protection against all malicious ads.

You don't see how ridiculous that line is? Did you think at all before writing it? Eternally? Nothing anyone does now works longer than a few months before the people whose living is to shove ads in your face figure a way around the new block. What could possibly make you think Apple can wave an everlasting magic wand over their code?

My point is that other OS providers offer tools for those of us interested in protecting our devices

And so does Apple. The App Store is full of choices. Many of them free.

Suggesting someone educate themselves is in no way insulting. Suggesting that they don't, or shouldn't, is far more insulting. Reading more of Socrates you see he makes the same point: "Education is the kindling of a flame, not the filling of a vessel."

. My "supposedly" in reference to putting gas in a car was admittedly a response meant as a throwback to my "supposed" experience as a PC Tech.

As for the comments about burning out, they were absolutely sincere, as you yourself pointed out that repeating yourself can become tiresome. I said the same thing about myself in the first post. While my first post may have read as aggressive, I tried to insinuate enough levity and empathy to the problem that it wouldn't be taken as hateful.

"Annoyingly appleogistic" was a good play on words, I thought, to convey the feeling I got that Lawrence was being both short and defending Apple pointlessly. Of *course* it's an Apple problem: we are in an Apple forum. I was unaware it was a common "fanboi" term. Of course I should have known I wouldn't have made an original joke.

The API lockdown has both pros and cons, but the fact that it makes other pop up blockers less effective and hamstrings them into something less useful for this issue was my point. Windows, Linux, not even the macOS environment requires code to be fully API compliant, only to work within the framework of the OS' architecture. This can allow both extension of usability and exposure to attack. In the App Store, at least, testing allows that exposure to be minimized, so the lockdown to existing code shouldn't be necessary.

Would an inclusive bit of code in the OS take up resources? Certainly. As much as an extraneous program using the OS? Certainly not.

If any of this seems hateful, I apologize in advance. 90% of my seemingly rude comments should be taken lightly. You can know if I am trying to be intentionally offensive, because I will point it out, and it will be less likely to seem like it could be a joke.

Please read more than the clause you wish to attack, especially the part including "NOT":

"...they are not capable of policing the entire internet, or writing one line of code that will eternally provide protection against all malicious ads."

I am not "on a tear", I am responding to the 40+ comments that I found in my junk folder, since I failed to whitelist the notification email address, and haven't checked this forum in a while.

Yes, I was agreeing with the person I was responding to. I have seen comments suggesting to try different browsers, or conversely, asking if it was an Apple problem why (browser X) had similar issues. Both types of comments show a lack of understanding that the browsers are based on an existing set of instructions included with iOS, not standalone programs working within a full OS. I did not intend for it to seem as though I disagreed with his assessment.

If any of this seems hateful, I apologize in advance. 90% of my seemingly rude comments should be taken lightly.

That is always a problem in text-only conversations. Unless people personally know you, and therefore can usually guess if you're being snide or witty, others can only apply how they think it reads to them. "or was it too much to ask that you educate yourself" can only read as snide.

"Annoyingly appleogistic" was a good play on words, I thought, …

It is, and is original to my knowledge. I hadn't seen it before. But again, it's all in how it reads to others. There was nothing to indicate you were being witty rather than rude. I mostly avoid emojis, but a simple winky would have changed its context:

"Annoyingly appleogistic" 😉

It's a minor change, but then others are much more likely to understand you intended the comment to be humorous rather than rude or insulting.

I agree, and I usually use them, or even just literally labeling a comment as sarcasm. I've been trying to promote a square root symbol "reality check" as a form of "irony delimiter".

√And everyone's been using it/.

I hadn't seen any emojis in the forum, though, so assumed they did not post.

People failing to learn about the technology they depend on has always been a sticking point for me. The day "user friendliness" overcame utility was the beginning of the end for my interest in continuing my career in computers. Now, the inanity of multiple confirmations for automated functions with no easy way to personally specify them drives me crazy. I welcomed complexity as payment for control, and now get so frustrated when I have to spend two hours to specify what I want done, or just be satisfied with the "default".

That is much of the root of my problem with iOS in general. Everything must be done only Apple's way on MY device. It's infuriating. I can't even block specific websites without turning on adult-content controls. Why can't I choose to be an adult, and also not see things from a specific website? What if I enjoyed **** on a 4" screen for some reason, but didn't like Disney.com? It's absurd, sure, but what if I LIKE being absurd? I suppose if I had something newer than a 5c, there might be better usability in iOS 11, but I just can't rationalize spending hundreds of dollars more simply to get a few tweaks.
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Well, as with any computer software, you paid for a license to use it. No one outside of Apple owns any part of it. It therefore isn’t “mine”. The same applies to Windows, Android, Adobe, and literally any other software on the planet. They can’t allow you to actually own the software you buy, or you would have the legal possibility to demand a copy of the source code you “paid” for.

Because of that, Apple, and only they decide how the OS works. Much as Microsoft has the only and final word on how Windows works. They’ll certainly accept suggestions for improvement and feature request, but that doesn’t mean you’ll ever see any particular idea implemented.

I don’t know why it’s necessary to turn on Parental Controls in order to block specific content. But, does it really make a difference? Once on, you have full control, even though its for your own account rather than a child’s. It’s just a different way to get to the same result.

You are not taking the time to read my or rvidovic’s post. I did not download an ad blocker nor did I suggest it. This has been an ongoing issue from what I have read in trying to fix an issue I have experienced. So far nothing has worked except for the setting rvidovic suggested. So no, I will not skip the suggestion and I will be following up to let everyone know if it worked or not since the other suggestions including yours have failed.