Empty (null-size) Projects

iMovie 10.1.8 on High Sierra on my 2009 iMac now shows grey Project thumbnails in Project view, apparently with no more links to any footage. Clicking on them does nothing. A couple of very recent Projects DO show properly and respond normally. Media view shows all of the raw, unedited footage Events or clips intact. I've tried File>Update Projects and Events, but the new library it creates simply duplicates the problem. I still have the original Events folder and Projects folder that an earlier version of iMovie once referred to, for what that's worth. These Projects represent a lot of hours of work, now either gone or inaccessible. I can't find any earlier questions just like this, let alone answers. Any suggestions on what to check or try in order to get all my earlier Projects/movies back in action?

OBS,iMac (27-inch Late 2009), macOS High Sierra (10.13.3)

Posted on Jan 29, 2018 9:49 AM

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Jan 29, 2018 12:11 PM in response to Cheapskate

Hi,


The first thing I would try is to open iMovie while holding down the Option and Command keys, and selecting to delete preferences in the box that appears.


If the above doesn't solve it, retrieve your projects from the iMovie backups folder. To get there follow this file path:

Go/Home/Library/Containers/com.apple.iMovieApp/Data/Library/Caches/iMovie Backups. You will see a list of library backups by date. Click on one that has a date closest to when you first observed the problem. iMovie will open in the backed up library, and your projects should all be intact (hopefully). 🙂


-- Rich

Jan 30, 2018 5:36 PM in response to Cheapskate

Sometimes You Tube has some helpful stuff. Here's a vid I came across about how to repair an iMovie library:


Fix corrupt iMovie library - YouTube


It's a bit laborious and may or may not apply to you, but it has some educational value in showing how things are put together. The Console app that he refers to is located in the Applications/Utilties Folder.


I think that if you create a new library in iMovie 10 and do a File/Update Projects and Events your iMovie 8 projects and events may update into your current version. Not sure but worth a try. The update feature goes back as far as iMovie 7.


Good luck with this. Please post back if you have any success.


-- Rich

Jan 30, 2018 8:29 AM in response to Rich839

They are as you say, so I began looking at the differences between the two projects that iMovie shows normally, and all the rest that show only as greyed-out empty symbols that don't do anything when selected.


The two projects that do "work" show a file called CurrentVersion.imovieevent and four folders called Original Media (with clips), Render Files, Shared Items, and a folder named after the project that contains Backup.imovieevent, CurrentVersion.imovieevent, and in one case, also Damaged.imovieevent.


The rest of the projects that register as null also show the same CurrentVersion.imovieevent file, plus no folders or one, two or three folders. An Original Media (with clips) folder is almost universally present. Also common but not absolutely so is a folder called Render Files, and/or one called Unsupported Media which usually either just one file called iMovie Data but occasionally includes an actual clip or two (in this case .dv clips). In no case is a project-named folder present in these defective projects, which is a hint to me that the lack of the file(s) they'd normally contain means I'm probably SOL.


So far, no change after deleting certain package files, as on the other thread. Final Cut is overkill, but I still wonder if it is less prone to costly hiccups than iMovie is.

Jan 30, 2018 10:45 AM in response to Cheapskate

If your null projects contain an original media folder with all the media in it, then the project is still on your computer but iMovie for some reason isn't reading it. Could be corruption in your library. The null projects that are bare probably are lost, but I wouldn't want to say that definitively in case they are lingering around somewhere.


-- Rich

Jan 30, 2018 1:09 PM in response to Rich839

I think I'll research two tacks, the first being how to get iMovie to prompt me to let it fix the library, and second how to best utilize iMovie 8.0.6, which I just now found was never auto-removed during updates. It is apparently still able to see all of the original Events and Projects folders, but is showing me that some raw Events footage is missing, which I may or may not still have the DV tapes for to re-import into it. But many Projects are fully playable and I should at least be able to export them as finished works for safekeeping. This broken Library file problem is now a can of worms, but also potentially offers a method of salvaging at least some projects by horsing with iMovie 8.

Jan 29, 2018 2:26 PM in response to Rich839

Thank you, Rich. Option & Command delete preferences opened what looks to be a clean install with startup windows, no projects and no events. That was disconcerting, at first! Switching over to my own Library showed no change to the problem described.


For some reason, the iMovie backups folder shows only two library backups, the earliest being two weeks ago, which is far too new. Though the Projects are shown in a different order, the blank, empty Projects problem is there as well. Makes me wonder if the latest updates to High Sierra and/or iMovie wiped off earlier such backups. Getting there along the path described was not possible since there is no visible Library folder off my username. I had to search "Library", and look at each path shown below to find the right one. Got there, though.

Jan 29, 2018 4:17 PM in response to Rich839

At first blush it appears that a lot of files/folders referred to aren't used in the new version, but I am copying my library file now and will try some voodoo surgery on the original, just to try something. (It's over 300GB in size.) I went back in Time Machine to try to find older iMovie library backups than I currently have, but the ...Library/Caches/ directory apparently doesn't exist in former versions, and I couldn't spot older backup library files anywhere near there. I'll try the thread you suggest and keep goofing with things. Thanks for your responses!

Jan 29, 2018 5:49 PM in response to Cheapskate

Keep at it. As part of your quest, check out the following:


In your Movies folder in the finder, control-click on your iMovieLibrary folder. In the drop down menu, click on Show Package Contents. You should now see a list of your project folders if the projects are still in your library. Click on a couple of the folders. You won't be able to play them in this view. However, they should contain other folders, one of which is called Original Media, that contains the media in your projects. Click on the Original Media folders to verify they contain the media. Be sure not to change, rename, or move anything in the package, project folder, or any of the subfolders, or you risk corrupting your library. It's O.K. to copy them, however.


As you can see, iMovie 10, unlike iMovie 9, does not contain intact project "files". In iMovie 10, the "projects" are simply a collection of the media and data, stored in folders in the iMovie Library, that the iMovie app assembles into a project when you click on the project within iMovie.


In the Movies folder, you also should check to see whether you inadvertently have other iMovie libraries that might contain the projects you are looking for. That happens sometimes.


-- Rich

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