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Installing a Radeon Vega Frontier Edition in a 2010 Mac Pro

So it was just my birthday and my awesome wife got me a Radeon Vega Frontier. She's the best.


Anyway, my Frankenstein's Monster of a Mac Pro is pretty much complete now, I guess.


Previously added:

  • New CPU riser with 12x 3.33Mhz and 64GB RAM
  • USB3 card
  • Areca ARC1882 IX 24 attached to
    • 24x Ultrastar 3TB external in a RAID6 with 2 hot spares (60TB media array)
    • 4x SanDisk Ultra SSD 1TB internal (4TB startup/media-cache array)
  • 5x Ultrastar 3TB external in a RAID5 via USB3 (12 TB Time Machine)
  • Sapphire Radeon R9 x290
  • 2x BDR burners (hate me, I love Blu-Ray)


First, the unboxing. Ooooooo, pretty

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The first order of business was installing High Sierra, which has the correct drivers. This was no easy task. High Sierra requires a firmware update for my Mac Pro, but the updater did not like either the R9 290x or that I was booting from the Areca card. So I had to clone my startup to a FW800 drive, replace the R9 290x with my original Radeon 5870 from Apple, boot from the clone, and then I could complete the upgrade.


Then, the Vega goes in:


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What a mess, right? Can't believe this is a Mac, right? I can't


Anyway, the Vega draws too much power to connect the motherboard power cables, so you need a 2nd PSU. I got a Thermaltake 750W, mostly because it was the least expensive non-generic 750 I could find at $68 (bonus: super quiet fan). I also got 2x PCIe 1' power extenders to reach out the back of the Mac.


Speaking of which, here's the back of my Mac now:User uploaded file


A closer look at the back (you can see the red connectors of the PCIe extenders coming out the top left)

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About this Mac and Sys Info

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What a freaking mess. But is it worth it? I'm mostly concerned about OpenCL performance. I used the complex hotel lobby scene in LuxMark to test. The Vega saw a 2.5x increase in benchmark score and a much better score on image validation:


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Now a real-world test. I took 5-min from a video wall installation I did that had lots of effects and motion and AE comps, and sent it from Premiere to Media Encoder to encode a 19 mbit 1080p MP4. The results


R9:

- Video: 1920x1080 (1.0), 29.97 fps, Progressive, 00;05;00;03

- Audio: AAC, 320 kbps, 48 kHz, Stereo

- Bitrate: VBR, 2 pass, Target 19.00 Mbps, Max 25.00 Mbps

- Encoding Time: 00:15:03


Vega:

- Video: 1920x1080 (1.0), 29.97 fps, Progressive, 00;05;00;03

- Audio: AAC, 320 kbps, 48 kHz, Stereo

- Bitrate: VBR, 2 pass, Target 19.00 Mbps, Max 25.00 Mbps

- Encoding Time: 00:08:48


A 71% increase in speed. NICE!


Anyway, seems to be running well, much less fan action than the R9 270x, and no glitches so far. Will update if that changes.


Finally, I'd like to point out how absurd it is that I need to go to these measures to get a Mac that suits my needs. I practically have a hackintosh at this point.


Mac Pro, macOS High Sierra (10.13.3), 2010, 12-core 3.33, 64 RAM

Posted on Feb 10, 2018 5:06 PM

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Feb 22, 2018 5:55 AM in response to Shecky Lovejoy

Whoa...


Great work Shecky, I have a similar system, albeit a smaller raid setup and an Amfeltec Squid for booting.


What a shame we have to hang a PSU out the back to get work done - haha.


It's machines like this that keep us not only inspired, but forever hopeful that Apple will make the next Mac Pro with the features we actually ask for...


Long live the 5,1. Thank the lord.


Bill.

Feb 22, 2018 8:05 AM in response to billthebutcher

Long live the 5,1, shame that it is that I am using am 8-year-old computer.


If anyone from Apple is listening, my 7,1 wishlist:

  • Big tower with lots of customization space. I really don't care what it looks like. The cables for my RAID card are tight
  • More than 4 PCIe 3.0 slots and 3 of them should be 16x
  • Lots of RAM and cores, duh.
  • Video cards: AMD and Nvidia options, plus available upgrades every year
  • Please do not leave out drive bays
  • Please do not make us guinea pigs for USB-C

  • Thanks

    Feb 23, 2018 11:02 AM in response to Lance Mcvickar

    I'm a pretty happy FCPX user as well - it's beyond ready for prime time, and wicked fast on Apple iron. And if I can avoid AE for Motion I will. Less capable for a few things but much more responsive.


    I've got a Radeon Frontier sitting boxed next to me, and plan to install it with Pixlas mod on a MP 5,1 I've modded with the 3.46GHz Xeons and an M2 boot drive next weekend. It's great to see the AE stats, but as I try to do more "in the box" with FCPX and plugins, I'm expecting much faster response/renders.

    Feb 23, 2018 1:43 PM in response to Lance Mcvickar

    Lance Mcvickar wrote:



    How are the fans in the Vega 64 noise level wise when your rendering stuff?

    Sorry, I just realized I clicked on your links, got sucked into Beth Hart YouTube, and never answered your question.


    Much quieter than my previous Sapphire R9 290X, which worked great but was a noisy beast with it's double fan design. I much prefer the sealed design of the Vega with hot air sucked out the back of the case


    I have 29 Ultrastars in 2 RAID cases, so it's a pretty noisy studio to begin with, even with the quietest fans I could find. Yes, it's annoying.

    Feb 23, 2018 2:14 PM in response to Knute5

    I have nothing against FCPX, and I use it a couple of times a year at client request and have very few issues with it. I find Motion much less compelling. I will likely be buried with my After Effects 3.1 serial-port license dongle 😉


    My biggest issue is that I am taking a wait-and-see attitude towards all Apple products until I can get a better grip on their long-term commitment to the pro market through 2018 and 2019. I feel really burnt by the 2013 Mac Pro (and subsequent inattention to pro hardware), as well as the bungled FCPX transition. I would feel better if FCPX updates were more timely and robust. Or that it wasn't going to take them a year to introduce a new Mac Pro design, to replace what they now admit was a failed experiment with our livelihoods. The iMac Pro has all the same issues as the 2013 Mac Pro, and comes at a high cost.


    I need to plan hardware upgrades in 3-year increments, and new video cards every 18 months, and Apple has introduced too much uncertainty into my calculations


    For now, I've taken this 2010 Mac Pro as far as I'm going to take it, and, like I said, wait and see what this and next year bring, and try to keep and open mind. I've been an Apple customer since 1981 (not a typo), so they have a large reservoir of goodwill with me, but it is running empty.


    </rant>


    Anyway, sorry to rant at you, let us know how the upgrade goes this weekend. Don't forget to do some tests before the upgrade for comparison (I usually forget). Good luck

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