You can make a difference in the Apple Support Community!

When you sign up with your Apple Account, you can provide valuable feedback to other community members by upvoting helpful replies and User Tips.

Looks like no one’s replied in a while. To start the conversation again, simply ask a new question.

Choppy Wifi caused by locationd

I'm on MacOS 10.13.3 (MBP 2016 and MBP 2017) and have a strange issue with the quality of my wifi connection.


I originally noticed that my video conferencing software suffered from choppy experience (audio/video would get briefly delayed or interrupted every minute or so). So I started troubleshooting. I noticed that ping to my default gateway (home or office router) had strange slowdowns every once in a while (see below). I opened Console and noticed that Mac rescans available wifi networks fairly often every minute or so) and sometimes the rescan runs 4-6 times in a row. Always initiated by locationd process. These wifi rescans also correspond to my connectivity issues.


To somewhat help with this issue, I ended up killing -9 navd process (which seemed to be one of the frequent triggers) and disabled Location Services in my Privacy settings. Unfortunately, disabling Location Services doesn't eliminate the wifi rescans- it only prevents locationd from sharing the results (as seen in Console: "WIFI_LOC: location services are disabled, ignore scan result").


This issue surfaced with the upgrade to High Sierra and I verified the behavior on multiple wifi networks and two different MBP.


Is there any way to get a relief from this issue? Stable wifi connectivity is very important to my job and using Ethernet adapter (which, btw, resolves this issue) is mostly not an option.


Ping (ping -c 1000 -i 0.1 -s 1500 192.168.1.1):

...

1508 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=61 ttl=64 time=1.586 ms

1508 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=62 ttl=64 time=1.430 ms

1508 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=63 ttl=64 time=4.290 ms

1508 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=64 ttl=64 time=3.728 ms

1508 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=65 ttl=64 time=2.699 ms

Request timeout for icmp_seq 66

Request timeout for icmp_seq 67

Request timeout for icmp_seq 68

Request timeout for icmp_seq 69

1508 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=66 ttl=64 time=481.901 ms

Request timeout for icmp_seq 71

Request timeout for icmp_seq 72

Request timeout for icmp_seq 73

Request timeout for icmp_seq 74

Request timeout for icmp_seq 75

1508 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=67 ttl=64 time=935.170 ms

1508 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=68 ttl=64 time=833.174 ms

1508 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=69 ttl=64 time=732.487 ms

1508 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=70 ttl=64 time=627.887 ms

1508 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=71 ttl=64 time=527.319 ms

1508 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=72 ttl=64 time=429.748 ms

1508 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=73 ttl=64 time=327.237 ms

1508 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=74 ttl=64 time=227.283 ms

1508 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=75 ttl=64 time=127.410 ms

1508 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=76 ttl=64 time=26.772 ms

1508 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=77 ttl=64 time=481.695 ms

1508 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=78 ttl=64 time=382.614 ms

1508 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=79 ttl=64 time=282.799 ms

1508 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=80 ttl=64 time=180.891 ms

1508 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=81 ttl=64 time=75.931 ms

1508 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=82 ttl=64 time=1.425 ms

1508 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=83 ttl=64 time=560.851 ms

1508 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=84 ttl=64 time=460.435 ms

1508 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=85 ttl=64 time=360.200 ms

1508 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=86 ttl=64 time=260.067 ms

1508 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=87 ttl=64 time=158.118 ms

1508 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=88 ttl=64 time=816.694 ms

1508 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=89 ttl=64 time=715.863 ms

Request timeout for icmp_seq 99

Request timeout for icmp_seq 100

Request timeout for icmp_seq 101

Request timeout for icmp_seq 102

1508 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=90 ttl=64 time=1384.193 ms

1508 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=91 ttl=64 time=1283.824 ms

1508 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=92 ttl=64 time=1180.031 ms

1508 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=93 ttl=64 time=1075.527 ms

1508 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=94 ttl=64 time=972.461 ms

...

Posted on Feb 13, 2018 8:52 AM

Reply
Question marked as Top-ranking reply

Posted on Feb 13, 2018 9:01 AM

if your Wi-Fi is unstable, killing processes in MacOS is NOT the solution.


First, make sure you have limited the use of nearby networks by doing a two step process.


First, specifying Ask to join in this pane:

User uploaded file


second, prune all other networks from this pane:

User uploaded file

if you need to use some of those networks at other times, the "approved method" is to add them to a different Network Location Files, and choose that Network Location File when you arrive at a new destination.

Similar questions

2 replies
Question marked as Top-ranking reply

Feb 13, 2018 9:01 AM in response to mm404

if your Wi-Fi is unstable, killing processes in MacOS is NOT the solution.


First, make sure you have limited the use of nearby networks by doing a two step process.


First, specifying Ask to join in this pane:

User uploaded file


second, prune all other networks from this pane:

User uploaded file

if you need to use some of those networks at other times, the "approved method" is to add them to a different Network Location Files, and choose that Network Location File when you arrive at a new destination.

Feb 13, 2018 9:06 AM in response to Grant Bennet-Alder

Wonky ping times are a symptom of network issues, but they do not provide any actionable diagnostic information.


Hold down the Option key while you click on the Wi-Fi icon on the menubar. This allows access to Wireless Diagnostics Monitoring and several important displays of additional information.


This also brings up a performance snapshot, which I am happy to interpret if you can post it here. Like this one:

User uploaded file


.

Choppy Wifi caused by locationd

Welcome to Apple Support Community
A forum where Apple customers help each other with their products. Get started with your Apple Account.