iOS 11.3 - Delete Message Confirmation

It’s not about handling it, you all are really pathetic with these criticism. Simply add what ever you think maybe useful but do allow a toggle for those not sharing your opinion. Email messages allow for this, why make it a forced feature for messages.

Because you're not speaking to Apple here. We are all users just like you. We can't add anything and Apple isn't here reading these posts. If you don't like it and you want Apple to know, use the link that has been provided to provide your feedback.

Yomny wrote:

It’s not about handling it, you all are really pathetic with these criticism. Simply add what ever you think maybe useful but do allow a toggle for those not sharing your opinion. Email messages allow for this, why make it a forced feature for messages.

You may not have noticed but that post was in reply to me. And, it had to do with a previous conversation rbrylawski and I have had on the subject. We were doing something called "joking with each other".

Just did iOS update and was looking for answers to this new feature. Thanks to those who shared that it isn't toggle-able, and for those who shared the edit-select-delete option. That is certainly quicker when deleting multiple threads.

I'm not going to Android, or back to Windows, or anything else. Just hope Apple gets a little common sense on this one. I'm not a programmer/developer, just a happy user. But it seems the toggle-able "ask before deleting" option in Mail settings would be easy to add for Messages, and would fit the preferences of the greatest number of users. This seems like it would be "low-hanging fruit" for Apple. Pun intended. :-)

tj_610 wrote:

But it seems the toggle-able "ask before deleting" option in Mail settings would be easy to add for Messages, and would fit the preferences of the greatest number of users. This seems like it would be "low-hanging fruit" for Apple. Pun intended. :-)

You should definitely submit your feedback to Apple.

Best of luck.

I did. Thanks! I tried to be nice, even said "please" twice. :-)

I understand this might be a nice feature for some (I'm thinking about my mom and mother-in-law, who use iOS devices). It just seems like something that is unnecessarily mandatory, when so many (I think) will find it annoying and/or inefficient. We will see! There won't be an Apple stock price-changing mass abandonment over this issue. But I do hope to see iOS 11.3.x eventually making this toggle-able.

tj_610 wrote:

I did. Thanks! I tried to be nice, even said "please" twice. :-)

I understand this might be a nice feature for some (I'm thinking about my mom and mother-in-law, who use iOS devices). It just seems like something that is unnecessarily mandatory, when so many (I think) will find it annoying and/or inefficient. We will see! There won't be an Apple stock price-changing mass abandonment over this issue. But I do hope to see iOS 11.3.x eventually making this toggle-able.

Apple made a change in the way dictation worked with iOS 11. Lots of people complained. They changed it back. Apple doesn't always agree with the feedback but, they do read it. So, all you can do is cross your fingers.

zl9600 wrote:

And probably someone who had some pull got it into the development cycle without any attention to UX, despite the fact it is wholly inconsistent behavior with at least three apps (and that's without looking for any others), and extremely poor behavior.

It is quite possible that your opinion on what constitutes good UX design is not universal.

What I don’t understand is why did they add it? Because people complained about accidentally deleting their messages? And if you allow us to turn off delete confirmations in our Mail then give us the same option for our messages APPLE!!!

Klove1024 wrote:

That’s why there should be an option to turn it off and on for those that want the extra step

If Apple implemented an "option" for every feature that people post they want to be able to control, the Settings menu would be so huge and nested that you'd never be able to figure out where anything was. As Idris said, get your muscle memory trained, and you won't even notice it.

For example, are you still having conniption fits about how the Lock Screen now works? Do you even remember how it used to work? The way that so many people said was the only way that they could possibly go on using an iPhone? The way it worked before the new way destroyed so many peoples' existence?

Cheers,

GB

This is about as strawman an argument out there. Because it is a feedback and/or request, ergo all user requests would destroy the experience, hence this request is not valid. I would disagree.

What many folks are asking for is an option. What some of us are pointing out as a reason for it is the lack of consistency. That's it. This option exists in Mail right now. Has it overloaded settings? I can't see how, personally. It's an option I have if I care enough to want to turn it on, boom--I can. Otherwise, it's there, not keeping me up at night that it's weighed down under a pane in settings.

One observation here is that nobody is saying that there doesn't exist ANY way to resolve both those who have inadvertently deleted messages and would like someone to save their clumsy fingers while remaining consistent with the experience found in other Apple apps.

Apple clearly addressed the former, but was clumsy about the latter.

The two questions I don't see answered by a few of the snarky folks here pushing against those of us who don't care for it is how does adding two more steps to a process make something more usable? And for the sake of argument if one says "yes I believe it actually is more usable", then why isn't it on every other feature in the apps that offer swipe-to-delete without confirmation (like Mail, Notes, etc)?

Would a settings option, a toggle inside messages prefs for the love of ice cream, totally destroy your phone and your experience because it's sitting inside settings waiting for you to go there if you wish? No? Why would adding it to the Mail preferences, where it is now, NOT do this?

Would the option to turn on an ability to recover deleted text messages, or just have a 'trash/deleted messages' option, like you can with voicemail, be worthy and consistent?

My argument would be those options or add-ons would be more consistent than what they did here. Your mileage may differ, but the overwhelming sentiment in the "this is a crappy option" thread is, not surprisingly given the topic, aligned with the argument that it's neither good usability nor consistent.

The former is subjective of course, but the latter is simply fact as evinced in other Apple apps.

Cheers!

Ugh, yes apple please remove the confirmation feature or allow us to turn this feature off. It is an unnecessary step. If this was added for those people who accidentally delete a text messages and regret it. Then simply remind these people that these are text messages and not anything of any importance. Or maybe you can an a deleted folder for them like VM or email.

Why are you telling me this? Tell the lawyers who asked for text messages from the users who posted they have accidentally deleted them.

Or the user who accidentally deleted a text message stream from a spouse who had died, and that they wanted to preserve?

Because it's quite clear from many who have whined like school children about a very simple and really not overly difficult to handle change, that they like to whine and they don't care about others needs.

Klove1024 wrote:

Lol a conniption fit? Why does it have to be all that when someone is just stating how they feel about something? 1st world problems is all this is lol

You hit the nail on the head Klove1024 😁

GB