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can someone explain the difference between Photos, Iphoto, Pictures

I recently began getting messages from my brand spanking new MBP that my disk was full! Figured it was time to do some house cleaning. Been wanting to get my photos more orderly so went there. But there seem to be numerous photo apps or folders or storage areas. I don't even know what language to use. Point is, I try to open each one to move whatever I have all to Photo since that seems to be apples new picture app/organizer and finding that when I open "pictures," for example, it opens a window saying it's preparing the library and something or other is locked, etc etc. I'm buried here. Please help simplify what ought to be simple. Thx.

MacBook Pro, macOS High Sierra (10.13.3)

Posted on Feb 26, 2018 3:05 PM

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Feb 28, 2018 12:21 AM in response to Donna Penn

Too bad that we are in different time zones. That makes having an orde ly discussion difficult. 😁


Ok, your screenshot looks like I expected.


Your Pictures folder contains fragments of an iPhoto Library, that is no longer working. That is why the system is treating Pictures like an iPhoto Library. And inside the Pictures folder are your old files, that you need to save. It is good that you could open the Pictures folder by ctrl-clicking.


I would suggest the following:


  • Quit Photos, if it is running.
  • Make a backup copy of the contents of Pictures on an external drive.
  • Create a new folder "My Pictures" in your home folder, outside of Pictures. keep a Finder window of your new "My Pictures" open.
  • Now ctrl-click your Pictures folder again, use Show Package Contents and drag all files you need to save to your new folder "My Pictures". Move all photos, pdf files, and folders with photos over to My Pictures, but most importantly, the following items:
    • All Libraries: Photos Library.photolibrary, Photo Booth Library, iPhoto Library.migratedlibrary, Masters, Previews
    • Look into iPhotoLibraryOld
    • Your folders Children etc.
    • User uploaded file
  • Once you moved all important items with photos and pdf documents to your new "MyPictures" folder, delete the remaining parts of the old iPhoto Library, "AlbumData.xml", "com.apple.iphoto.plist","Info.plist", "iPhotoAux.db", "porojectDBversion.plist", "Project.db".
  • Now test, if the Finder will still treat the Pictures folder as a photo library. If not restart, the Mac.
  • If the Pictures folder is still behaving like a Photos Library, make a backup of your Mac, open "Disk Utility" and use the command "File > Run First Aid". It will fix permission problems with your user home folder.
  • If your Pictures folder is now back to normal, you can move the files from "My Pictures" back to "Pictures", or just use them from your new custom My Pictures folder.

Feb 27, 2018 8:05 AM in response to LarryHN

When I single click on "Pictures," this is what I see

User uploaded file


When I double click on "Pictures," I get this.

User uploaded file

Which inevitably leads to this:

User uploaded file

When I click on the application "Photos.app," I see many of my photos. They are organized in a variety of ways, such as:

User uploaded file

I hope this is a more suitable questioning format of the concerns I'm asking for help with.

Feb 27, 2018 8:11 AM in response to LarryHN

OH, and I forgot to add, when I click on Home Folder>Pictures.photolibrary (which there seem to me multiple versions of), I get this window:

User uploaded file

At this point, I get really lost. It seems based on what you've said that my pictures ought to live in Pictures.photolibrary, yes? When I click "Switch," I get this window:


And that's when I give up and ask for more knowledgable people to step in. Thx.

Feb 27, 2018 8:36 AM in response to Donna Penn

Your Pictures folder seems to have changed its type. It is still showing the icon of the system Pictures folder, but the "Kind" changed to Photos Library. Perhaps you can change this back.

Select the Pictured folder in the Finder and enter the key combination ⌘I (short for Full > Get Info).

What does the Info panel show?

It should look like this, with Kind: Folder

User uploaded file


Is the Name & Extension field writable, if you click the padlock in the Info panel? If yes, can you disable the "Hide Extension" field?

Feb 27, 2018 9:46 AM in response to Donna Penn

also, when I do a "pictures" search in Finder, among a very long list of photos and other images I've been worrying were lost, I find 2 folders called "Pictures." One has that icon of a camera in the center of the folder and the other does not. When I single click on those, I had 3 measly pix in the folder without the camera and nothing in the one with. However, the one with the icon that shows nothing inside, does show almost 6GB inside.

User uploaded file


Obviously, that's the folder I need to get inside. I want to move my images to whatever is the appropriate place or them to "live."

Feb 27, 2018 10:19 AM in response to Donna Penn

The Finder.app is a little hard to find: /System/Library/CoreServices/Finder.app/

In the "Other" file chooser panel click your system drive, then open the "System" folder, then "Library", the "Core Services" and scroll down to Finder.app.



User uploaded file


To be able to select the Finder, you may have to switch the the "Enable" selector at the bottom of the panel to "All Applications".

Feb 26, 2018 5:09 PM in response to Donna Penn

it is simple but when you have questions you have to actually share details and ask clean, clear questions - this article will help ask better questions which will help you get better answers - Writing an effective Apple Support Communities question


As to photo organization software this forum is only about Photos for Mac which is included with the OS on all Macs - Pictures is not software it is a finder folder which is the default location for the Photos library and the recommended place to store photos - iPhoto is an older discontinued program different from functionally similar to Photos, forget it as there is no reason to learn and use it now


as to

when I open "pictures," for example, it opens a window saying it's preparing the library

that is not correct - Pictures is a finder folder and when you open it you see all of the files and/or photos stored in it - no program opens at all


and when you do open a program (probably Photos in your case) and you get an error, to get help with the error you actually have to tell us what the exact error is adn exactly what you did - there is no possible way for anyone to help with

something or other is locked, etc etc.



Read through the Photos help topics and ask a real question with details about that you have and what exactly is going on - Welcome to Photos on Mac - Apple Support


And these may help too - Photos - Official Apple Support and http://help.apple.com/macOS/high-sierra/whats-new/?lang=en&cases=kIFAGHvXTAepRpt QXiXe5w,N0bfKOvERSiAp06mHOcgOQ&notificat…


LN

Feb 27, 2018 8:13 AM in response to Donna Penn

So the Photos app is working fine then?


and it appears that you have names a Photos library Pictures with is probably not a good idea and will be confusing


When you launch the Photos Application go to the Photos menu ==> preferences ==> general and tell us the path to the Photos library that is reported at the top of that window


LN

Mar 1, 2018 4:13 PM in response to léonie

Hello Leonie. I'm sorry if the time difference is difficult for you/us. I also want you to know how much I appreciate all you've done to help me. Have you given up? I sent you a screen shot of the contents of the Pictures folder and haven't heard back from you. I hope this isn't a bad sign for me and just means you're getting on with your life. Any other advice you may have will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

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