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Question: Making sense of Photos - keep only recent photos on icloud

First of all, I know that photos is not meant to be used like that, but the program has its own merits and it works great if you use multiple devices.


Coming from a photography background I am very prone to fill my quota of iCloud. The issue lies here, that I do not have use or reasons to spend for 200GB or 1TB of cloud storage. To be honest even upgrading iCloud won't resolves all the issue.


For my personal images I am quite happy to use Photos to manage the library, the issue arises when storage starts to become a problem. 50GB is more than enough for current images and I do not need more. Upgrading to 200GB would work for a while, but I do not want to keep originals solely on the cloud to save space on my mac.


I have figured out that Photos could work well with referenced folders wither on an external drive or NAS. Which is what I would like to achieve. Unfortunately I have realised this a bit late and have already some library management that I would like to keep. Hence exporting originals and re-importing them would be a solution for the future.


So I wonder if there is a way to mark images not to be stored in the iCloud so I can then move them and relink, as long as they are on the cloud that is not possible as Photos wants to re-download the originals. Or if someone has any workaround so I can keep edits and albums sorting of photos while moving the originals.


If a person could at least select keep only images from that date on the cloud life would be so much easier.


Any suggestions, even thinking outside of the box, something I haven't mentioned. Maybe I am going about this the wrong way. Anything is appreciated.

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Mar 14, 2018 4:31 AM in response to léonie In response to léonie

This was one of the things I was thinking about as well. I cannot figure out if I can transform the existing Library in a non iCloud one and than create a new one for iCloud.
I mean I don't dare to try as I have 40GB of photos in iCloud and don't want to end up re-uploading all of them.


And how to you manage and transfer new photos from the iCloud library to the non iCloud one. Except if you don't edit the ones in iCloud.

Mar 14, 2018 4:31 AM

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Mar 14, 2018 8:56 AM in response to JernejCG In response to JernejCG

Only the system library is synced to iCloud Photo Library - set the one you want as the system Library


to move photos between libraries either export from one and import to the other or us PowerPhotos


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Mar 14, 2018 8:56 AM

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Mar 14, 2018 9:39 AM in response to JernejCG In response to JernejCG

Photos works just fine - PowerPhotos is a program by a third party which provides additional capabilities as do hundreds of other third party programs - no single program is ever going to do everything each and every person wants hence the free market lets third parties make money by developing programs to provide additional features for people who want them


to move photos between libraries either export from one and import to the other or use PowerPhotos

And of course as posted exporting form one library and importing into the other is an option requiring no third party software - nothing is required, just available if you want - one or the other, you choose to purchase PowerPhotos or to do it with Photos


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Mar 14, 2018 9:39 AM

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Mar 14, 2018 9:54 AM in response to LarryHN In response to LarryHN

I said at first I like photos for the way it works. But the program has its limitations. It is all fine until half of your drive is full and you can't move the images on an external location.


Using Lightroom I have no issue relinking moved folders.


As I mentioned I know that there are a lot of limitations in place, I just want to explore the possibilities. I already got a very helpful solution, but I am not yet settled on the matter.


I wonder if it is possible to merge libraries manually. I wonder how does PowerPhotos work.

Mar 14, 2018 9:54 AM

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Mar 14, 2018 10:07 AM in response to JernejCG In response to JernejCG

I said at first I like photos for the way it works. But the program has its limitations. It is all fine until half of your drive is full and you can't move the images on an external location.

you simply use a correct drive and run your Photos library on it again nothing else needed except a large enough disk drive - and for the third time it is trivial to move photos anyplace you want using the Photos application, File menu ===> export to the desired location


Using Lightroom I have no issue relinking moved folders.

No problem - again different programs have different capabilities and no program has every possible capability - use the program that you prefer - since you think LR is superior you certainly should be using it


I wonder if it is possible to merge libraries manually. I wonder how does PowerPhotos work.

You can not not make any changes of any sort manually to the Photos library, you must only use the Photos application to make changes to the Photos library and you can not merge libraries at all - you can mostly merge them (losing projects) using iCloud Photo Library and using export & import or PowerPhotos you can merge one version of the photos losing either the edits or keeping the edits and losing the ability to revert to the original -- Notes on Merging Photos Libraries


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Mar 14, 2018 10:07 AM

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Mar 14, 2018 10:10 AM in response to JernejCG In response to JernejCG

I wonder if it is possible to merge libraries manually. I wonder how does PowerPhotos work.

PowerPhotos is a very versatile companion to Photos, but I use it mainly for browsing the library, not for merging.

Because Apple does not allow much access for external editors to the library, you can only move the original or the edited versions between libraries. If you want both, you have to move them separately. It will not be possible to keep the edited version and the original paired. The documentation for PowerPhotos is here: https://www.fatcatsoftware.com/powerphotos/Docs/index.html


You may want to test the free trial, before buying the application.

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Mar 14, 2018 10:19 AM in response to LarryHN In response to LarryHN

you simply use a correct drive and run your Photos library on it again nothing else needed except a large enough disk drive - and for the third time it is trivial to move photos anyplace you want using the Photos application, File menu ===> export to the desired location

well, have you been following the development of Apple products? Internal soldered storage. It is impossible to increase the size of the drive in the MacBooks. And the system library can't be on an external drive so moving it is impossible as well. It is an issue that I could have avoided if I knew the limitation beforehand. I am now trying to find solutions.


I am looking into Lightroom CC as well and I have been using Lightroom CC classic all along anyway. As a photographer I use more than one device to make images and more than one program to work on them.


Photos integrates well within the Apple ecosystem, but could have a few improvements. (and yes, I have made a suggestion on their site as well).


I do not know why are we discussing on what is being offered or not by Photos. I have an issue now that I have to find a solution.

Mar 14, 2018 10:19 AM

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Mar 14, 2018 10:41 AM in response to JernejCG In response to JernejCG

And you have the solution


If you choose to continue using Photos use two libraries (or use iCloud Photo Library with optimized photos) or choose a different photo manage that works like you want


Clear and simple - you choose what you want and do it



And the reason we keep discussing the same thing is that you keep posting the same question even though it has been answered over and over in this thread (and in others) - I am done here - bye


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Mar 14, 2018 10:41 AM

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Mar 14, 2018 11:39 AM in response to JernejCG In response to JernejCG

And the system library can't be on an external drive so moving it is impossible as well.

That is a misunderstanding. The system library can be on an external drive. Just plug the drive in, before you launch Photos.

What you cannot do, is keeping the library on a NAS, any kind of network share. See: Move your Photos library to save space on your Mac - Apple Support


I bought my MacBook Pros with a 1TB internal drive, so my system photo library fits well onto the internal drive; my library has currently roughly 200GB. But the archive of all photos is on a 3TB external drive, that I only plug in, when I need to look up photos that are not I my favorites collection.

Mar 14, 2018 11:39 AM

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