Share wifi but keep Firewall on

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Hi everyone.



I have a Mac pro 3.1 which I have upgraded over many years from Leopard, Snow Leopard and now up to Mavericks.



During all this time, I have always set the firewall in the OS Security panel to ON. Recently, for the first time, I decided to use this computer as the main internet point for all devices in the house. This means I need to share the computer's ethernet connection via wifi. I'm not sure if I'm doing something wrong, but the various devices will only connect to the network if I turn the Mac OS firewall off, which I'm reluctant to do.



So my question is : can I share my computer's internet connection via wifi, but keep the firewall on ? And if so, how ?



Any help would be much appreciated.



Thank you.

Posted on Apr 18, 2018 11:20 PM

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Apr 19, 2018 6:23 AM in response to akayib

Is this Mac behind a home router? Perhaps the device provided by your ISP?


Or do you just have a Cable Modem (or FiOS modem; or similar)?


If there is a router between your Mac Pro and the outside world, then having your firewall on does nothing, unless you do not trust the other members of your family. The router is already blocking all unsolicited connections from the evil internet.


On the other hand, if you just have a broadband connection (no router), and the Mac Pro is going to be the router, then it is most likely not a smart choice, as A) Internet WiFi sharing uses a very weak WiFi encryption. B) macOS is not really used much as a router, so it is not as well tested as an inexpensive commercial router.

Apr 19, 2018 4:45 PM in response to akayib

Since you have a commercial router between your home and the Internet, you do not need your macOS firewall. Unless of course, you do not trust your family 🙂


However, you might consider getting a WiFi router. Put it into Bridge Mode (basically turn off DHCP and NAT services in the WiFi router; each WiFi router does this differently, but they all have a way to do it), then plug the WiFi router's WAN port into one of the Billion Bipac 7300's Ethernet ports.


When configured this way (Bridge mode), it will just be a WiFi access point for all your home WiFi devices, it will use less power than your Mac Pro, and it will use much better WiFi security/encryption.

Apr 19, 2018 11:54 AM in response to BobHarris

Hello BobHarris.


Thanks for that reply. I use a Billion Bipac 7300, which is a combined modem/router with 4 port switch. It is ethernet only, i.e no wireless. It is ADSL 2+. This is connected to my Mac Pro. My family was able to use the router for their wireless devices, even with my Mac Pro switched off, because I ran an ethernet cable from this router to an iMac, which unfortunately died last week. So rather than the old iMac being the wifi connection point, it will now be my Mac Pro. I switch off my Mac Pro in the evenings at bed time, and my son could do his studies with the iMac left on. I will now need to leave the Mac Pro switched on.


Thank you

Apr 19, 2018 5:27 PM in response to BobHarris

HI Bob.


Thanks for that. You've been most helpful.


My Mac Pro is on from about 7am-10pm most days, for my own work etc. I guess the only difference is that now it will be on for another hour or two extra, as my son does homework until 11pm or midnight (at least that's what he tells me). So perhaps the extra power consumption may not be much more than what it is currently.


In regards to a WiFi router, do you mean something like an Airport Extreme ?


Thank you.

Apr 19, 2018 6:45 PM in response to akayib

In regards to a WiFi router, do you mean something like an Airport Extreme?

That would be a more expensive option, but there are many WiFi routers available in the plus or minus $50 range

<https://www.lifewire.com/best-routers-under-50-4038819>

<Best Cheap Routers for 2018 - CNET>


If you have a home that is difficult to get good coverage, then you can consider one of the Mesh Networking WiFi routers, such as 'eero.com' (only mentioned because I use eero, so I have first-hand experience with this one).

<The Best Wi-Fi Mesh-Networking Kits for Most People: Reviews by Wirecutter | A New York Times Company>

<https://www.lifewire.com/best-mesh-wi-fi-network-systems-4139748>


NOTE: Before I switched to an eero system, I used Apple's Airport routers from 2001 (the original) until 2017 (last year). So I have nothing against them. But I have difficult to cover in WiFi home, so when Mesh Network WiFi devices became available, I switched. I also realize that an Airport Extreme solution is more expensive than many people need, and there are many less expensive solutions that will work just as well.


I will finally say if you are using smartphones or tablets having WiFi always available makes life nicer at home, and the smartphones do not need to cellular data, which may be a limited resource with your carrier plan. And some carriers allow you to use WiFi calling if the smartphone supports it, which can be very helpful if your home is in an area where cellular coverage is weak (again something I experience).


But, if using your Mac Pro is all you really need, and it works for you, just ignore my ramblings 🙂

Apr 19, 2018 9:01 PM in response to BobHarris

Hi Bob. Great advice and help once again. Thanks so much.


Our house is single storey and not that big. The distance between where the router is and where my son sits to study is about 5 or 6 m, with two doors separating him from the router - his bedroom door and the living room door.


Those eero routers are pretty expensive, at least IMO, about one and a half or two times the price of an airport extreme, at least in my country.


Thanks again.

Apr 20, 2018 5:37 AM in response to akayib

Those eero routers are pretty expensive, at least IMO, about one and a half or two times the price of an airport extreme, at least in my country.

Absolutely, but my home is a long 2 story house and getting coverage to all parts required multiple Airport Extremes. For me to get coverage over my entire house, I required at least 2 Airport Extremes, and eventually, I had 2 new ones and an old one giving complete coverage. So comparing the price of 3 Airport Extremes (even if I acquired them over time) vs an eero, The eero was actually cheaper. And I could afford the eero as a tech toy (Ooh! Shiny 🙂 ).


But the reason I went down this path is that you can get a very good WiFi router, for not a lot of money, disable DHCP & NAT (Bridge Mode) and have a less power hungry device that is using modern up-to-date WiFi encryption so your neighbors cannot jump on your network and use your bandwidth for free.

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