Time Machine out of space

At the beginning of the year I upgraded to High Sierra. At that time I also swapped my system hard drive, something easy to do on a mid 2010 MacPro. Since then I keep getting errors from my Time Machine that the back up failed because it was out of space. This happens about once a month. I also noticed my time machine only goes back about 3-4 weeks. I have a 12TB time machine backing up about 6TB of data. Any ideas how to get this working again?

Mac Pro, Mac OS X (10.6.8)

Posted on Apr 20, 2018 7:48 AM

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Posted on Apr 20, 2018 11:11 AM

Time Machine deletes older files if they have been deleted from the source when it needs space on the backup drive for a new incremental backup. Time Machine "thins" it's backups; hourly backups over 24 hours old, except the first of the day; those "daily" backups over 30 days old, except the first of the week. The weeklies are kept as long as there's room.


How long a backup file remains depends on how long it was on your Mac before you deleted it, assuming you do at least one backup per day. If it was there for at least 24 hours, it will be kept for at least a month. If it was there for at least a week, it will be kept as long as there's room. By default, Time Machine backs up hourly. That cannot be changed in Time Machine. There are third-party utilities that will modify the backup interval such as Time Machine Editor.


The Time Capsule sparse bundle grows in size as needed, but doesn't shrink. Thus, from the user's viewpoint of the Time Capsule, it appears that no space has been freed, although there may be space in the sparse bundle.


Once Time Machine finds it cannot free up enough space for a new backup it reports the disk is full. You can either erase the backup drive and start over or get a larger drive.


Your backup device is not large enough to hold your old backups plus the new ones started by your new startup drive. A Time Machine backup drive needs to be a minimum of 2-3 times the capacity of the source. Yours is not big enough to perform daily additive backups. You need to erase the backup drive and let Time Machine start over. Or use a different backup utility that overwrites old files with their newer ones doing intermediate backups. Another solution for Time Machine is to use a third-party utility to change the frequency of Time Machine backups. This doesn't fix the problem it simply reduces the number of regular backups thus extending the time between running out of space.

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Apr 20, 2018 11:11 AM in response to Eric_Phillips1

Time Machine deletes older files if they have been deleted from the source when it needs space on the backup drive for a new incremental backup. Time Machine "thins" it's backups; hourly backups over 24 hours old, except the first of the day; those "daily" backups over 30 days old, except the first of the week. The weeklies are kept as long as there's room.


How long a backup file remains depends on how long it was on your Mac before you deleted it, assuming you do at least one backup per day. If it was there for at least 24 hours, it will be kept for at least a month. If it was there for at least a week, it will be kept as long as there's room. By default, Time Machine backs up hourly. That cannot be changed in Time Machine. There are third-party utilities that will modify the backup interval such as Time Machine Editor.


The Time Capsule sparse bundle grows in size as needed, but doesn't shrink. Thus, from the user's viewpoint of the Time Capsule, it appears that no space has been freed, although there may be space in the sparse bundle.


Once Time Machine finds it cannot free up enough space for a new backup it reports the disk is full. You can either erase the backup drive and start over or get a larger drive.


Your backup device is not large enough to hold your old backups plus the new ones started by your new startup drive. A Time Machine backup drive needs to be a minimum of 2-3 times the capacity of the source. Yours is not big enough to perform daily additive backups. You need to erase the backup drive and let Time Machine start over. Or use a different backup utility that overwrites old files with their newer ones doing intermediate backups. Another solution for Time Machine is to use a third-party utility to change the frequency of Time Machine backups. This doesn't fix the problem it simply reduces the number of regular backups thus extending the time between running out of space.

Apr 20, 2018 4:37 PM in response to Eric_Phillips1

When you added the new drive, Time Machine sees everything as new and wants to backup everything again. Just backing up 6TB will take days and if it's also trying to create space, Time Machine fails. Most likely it's already deleted all your old backups. If not, either get a new drive and start over or erase the drive and start with a clean Time Machine.

Apr 23, 2018 8:00 AM in response to Eric_Phillips1

It sounds like I need to erase and rebuild the back up. If that doesn't work then I need more space. I was curious how Time Machine could be out of space if it had at least one complete back up. Since it deletes old backups as the space gets filled I wasn't sure how it gets out of space. At this point it isn't making it through a whole month before it needs to delete files maybe it doesn't like that.

Jun 4, 2018 2:51 PM in response to Kappy

The problem I am having is that Time Machine is to creating space by deleting old files. It used to do that, but recently it does not. When I first saw this I attempted to delete older files manually. I emptied 2 months backups. The trash bin has been running now for 2 days, trying to delete those files. Anyone got a suggestion?

Jun 6, 2018 8:16 AM in response to db24401

The problem I am having is that Time Machine is to creating space by deleting old files. It used to do that, but recently it does not. When I first saw this I attempted to delete older files manually. I emptied 2 months backups. The trash bin has been running now for 2 days, trying to delete those files. Anyone got a suggestion?

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