No Boot Camp on Mojave??? ***?

I don't understand why I must lose productivity on my late 2012 iMac with a 3TB drive. Does Mojave have independent capabilities to use Windows 10 that doesn't require Boot Camp? Will Boot Camp be updated to work with my system? Why was this never included in Apple's broadcast as a limiting factor? Why does Apple claim that Mojave is fine on a late 2012 iMac but the installation fails because of Apple's own Boot Camp?

I'm confused.

iMac, macOS High Sierra (10.13), iMac late 2012

Posted on Sep 24, 2018 3:47 PM

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Nov 2, 2018 2:56 PM in response to Trav1230

Even better, my iPhone and iPad have been updated to iOS 12, and I can no longer connect them to iTunes on my High Sierra Mac. So to manage music or any other content, or access photos on my phone or iPad, I need Mojave, but I can't install Mojave without losing BootCamp.


That is beyond bogus.


(And BTW, I have a replacement drive, not the original, though it is a 4TB rather than a 3TB)

Nov 6, 2018 4:38 AM in response to Ravenmoon

I confess I can't follow the technical discussion on getting access to Bootcamp from an external drive, and I wonder anyway if the drive would respond quickly enough to run programs but ...


Is it as simple as copying the existing Bootcamp (with its Windows programs) to an external drive and then installing Mojave? I rather suspect not and I'm very reluctant to delete my Bootcamp and the one Windows program I want to keep.

Nov 12, 2018 10:26 AM in response to dialabrain

Hey dialabrain. I appreciate your high standard for Apple folk, but they are humans, if pretty well-trained. If you have any extensive experience with Apple Genius Bar, like most of us here, you probably have experienced that they opine often. I have not heard THIS statement, but I have heard other things very much like this that would certainly be considered 'off script' or ill-advised. So as to the comment from JamesfromWeybridge: I love Apple, but I believe that he heard something like this if he says so.

Nov 27, 2018 8:56 AM in response to Trav1230

Is there a chance that Apple will fix this issue eventually as it did when the 3 TB drive was first introduced on the late 2012 iMac, or are there incompatibilities that cannot be fixed?


It is certainly bad, as I thought I had a future proof system, especially with the 3 TB replacement drive a few years ago.


It would be good to explain what APFS conversion entails (what does it mean) as this apparently interferes with bootcamp and time machine.


tineketover

Nov 27, 2018 9:00 AM in response to tineketover

tineketover wrote:


Is there a chance that Apple will fix this issue eventually as it did when the 3 TB drive was first introduced on the late 2012 iMac, or are there incompatibilities that cannot be fixed?


It is certainly bad, as I thought I had a future proof system, especially with the 3 TB replacement drive a few years ago.

1. Only Apple knows.

2. There's no such thing as "future proof".

Nov 28, 2018 6:28 PM in response to Trav1230

UPDATE: I appreciate the inputs and suggestions made by many, although I'm still not happy with the lack of communication up front or afterwards from Apple. Given that I'm apparently not important enough to get a responsible alert or answer from the company I paid for the iMac, and given that Apple seems to have updated everything else EXCEPT the iMac this year, I'm not exactly gung ho on buying a new computer from them. I still like the products, but not silent arrogance or false hype in Apple product webcasts. I don't think I'm alone.

HOWEVER: On the subject of Boot Camp, I gave up waiting and decided to remove Boot Camp, upgrade to Mojave, and install VMWare Fusion 11.x. After some newbie installation foibles, it does work on the late 2012 iMac/3TB combination. If you opt to do this, there is a frustrating issue that took me hours to find a solution to. During the installation and creation of your first virtual machine, you may get a vague error that tells you absolutely nothing about why it's failing to create a VM. I found the solution, not on VMWare's knowledge base, but on a community forum much like this one (but not.) Open the system preferences, then security and privacy, then the privacy tab. LEAVE it open when you create your VM and notice the insidious little security alert that shows up nowhere else and has no dialog box to reveal its presence. Some of you aces might know enough to do this in advance, and that shows you're more knowledgeable than me! Just always allow the darned thing to continue in the privacy tab and you'll be fine.

At least this will keep me going with Windows 10 until Apple decides to convince me I should buy another iMac.

Dec 30, 2018 4:38 PM in response to Trav1230

Hey, sorry for a late response to you’re issue. It seems like macOS Mojave doesn’t support Boot Camp for you’re Late 2012 iMac. That sucks I know but, there is a way to install Microsoft Windows®️ on you’re Macintosh.

Step 1: Retrieve a disk Copy of Windows

Step 2: Open Disk Utility on Mojave

Step 3: Click Macintosh HD or whatever name you have for you’re Macintosh’s hard drive and click partition.

Step 4: Partition how much space you would want on the volume you are partitioning and when you’re done getting you’re space setup before clicking Apply, click name and name it Windows and then click format and format it as exFAT then click Apply.

Now insert you’re DVD copy of Windows ®️ And wait for you’re iMac to detect it. After that, click restart and as you’re iMac is restarting hold down the option key on the keyboard. When a boot menu of 3 comes up you may see EFI Boot, you’re Mac hard disk and The Windows DVD, click the DVD and when you’re going through the setup and get to the select disk section, click the disk that says Windows and click drive options then click Format. This will only format the Windows volume so it can be recognized so you can install Windows on it. Then proceed with the installation of you’re choosing of Windows ®️


Cheers,

Nicholas

Dec 31, 2018 4:31 AM in response to Trav1230

The following isn't regarding 2012 iMacs but after spending time trawling the internet looking for a solution and trying all kinds of things, I have posted this here in the hope it helps someone else.


I spent a long time trying to get Boot Camp to behave on my late 2015 i5 iMac running Mojave but it just wouldnt get past the partitioning of the disk phase in BCA. It would error within a minute or two.


I then tried the manual route, successfully created a partition, booted into Windows using a bootable USB but then Windows had issues in the 'Copying Files' phase of the install and would error there too!


I tinkered a while and eventually broke my OSX install completely by accidentally deleting a partition of the Fusion Drive. Great.


As always, I have a Time Machine external drive plugged in at all times and decided to start again from scratch restoring a backup from 2 days before.


After a few hours, restore completed and everything was back where it had originally been.


Tried the BCA again and shock of the century it worked first time so I now have Windows 10 Pro and OSX Mojave running together like old friends.


The cure? I couldnt tell you, if I'm honest but if it worked for me, it may work for you!


Time Machine + start from scratch = Happy New Year!

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