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Slow boot time after update to Mojave - External SSD

Hello!


I have a iMac 21" 4k 3,1ghz 2015. I installed an external SSD Samsung 860 Evo 512gb to avoid losing the Apple 1yr warranty if I opened my iMac by myself.


So when I was using APFS format and OSX High Sierra, my iMac used to start, then 2 seconds with a completely empty screen(black) looking for the boot SSD, then the Apple logo appear and it would take another 18 seconds for the system to start completely.

Total boot time = ~20secs.


Now I installed the new MacOS Mojave and my current boot time are very very slow; when I turn on the computer the screen stills black for 2 minutes more or less "looking for my external boot SSD" and then the Apple logo appear and +18secs the system starts.

My current boot time = More than 2~3minutes!!!!

I have also a MacBook Pro 2017 TouchBar and TouchID with 512GB integrated SSD also with APFS format, and update this from High Sierra to Mojave at the same day/time to the iMac. Fortunately the MacBook Pro booting done in about 20secs.


So... There is any solution for fixing this "everlasting" blank screen when booting the iMac with MacOS Mojave and external SSD with APFS format?

I've researched about this, but I can't find anything to solve it. So, I hope someone here may help me!



Thanks!

iMac, macOS Mojave (10.14)

Posted on Sep 28, 2018 8:34 AM

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Posted on Oct 3, 2018 11:44 PM

Hello everyone,

i've found the solution.

The reset of the SMC not work, during the night (all the night) I shutdown the mac and disconnect the power, so the power cord is disconnected for about 7-8 hours.


A friend lent me a ssd thunderbolt drive, which I completely formatted.

With UtilityDisk have created a new APFS partition, and I used Carbon Copy Cloner to do a clone of the entire SSD USB3 to the new Thunderbolt SSD.

After the clone finished I've rebooted the mac, set the new drive as Startup Disk under the settings panel.

After the chime, now the apple logo appear after more or less 10 secs.

The boot time is now reduced from 2-3minutes to complessively about 20-30secs from the chime to OSX.

I've used only the Carbon Copy Cloner app, nothing else; nothing command settings, nothing particular settings.

So, in the conclusion, the problem is the USB3 enclosure (can be the TRIM functionality that is not present to the USB3 enclosure, even if it supported the TRIM and the UASP functionality.

Thank you for all, my friends !!

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Oct 1, 2018 10:00 AM in response to maverick1987

I also have noticed that after upgrading from high sierra to mojave my boot times have increased dramatically.

From about half a minute to nearly 5 minutes!


And i don't use an external hard drive.


The thing is, that my boot times are not consistent.

Around 80% it takes about 5 minutes.

The other 20% it starts like normal in about half a minute.


imac 27" 3.5 GHz i7 (late 2013)

1 TB internal flash storage

16GB RAM


Tried all the typical suggestions, resetting cache and so on. First aid program run on boot drive.

Changed nothing.

Oct 1, 2018 12:25 PM in response to mcqueentc

And again same problem here with a Samsung 850 EVO in an external Icy Box USB 3.1 enclosure connected to my iMac 27" late 2015 model. Had it running under High Sierra on HFS+ without any problems and with a very decent boot time.

Now that Mojave reformatted it to APFS, it takes about 2 minutes between the iMac start up chime and the Apple logo. After that, the boot process continues normally. This is not acceptable at all.


Had the exact same issue a couple of months ago when I reformatted the SAME SSD in the SAME enclosure from HFS+ to APFS (for testing) while being on High Sierra. After I switched back to HFS+, the problems were gone immediately.


So it's definitely NOT the SSD, it's something about the combination of USB and APFS.


So if anybody comes across a solution here, I would LOVE being notified!!!


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Oct 2, 2018 12:06 AM in response to maverick1987

I can reproduce this problem on my iMac (Retina 4K, 21.5-inch, 2017), Mojave freaked up the firmware.

It does NOT matter which drive I boot from. Internal, external, USB-Stick with Linux Mint. It always takes 2-3 minutes until the machine starts the boot process.

Even with everything but the keyboard disconnected and starting in diagnose mode ("D" key) or calling up the boot volume chooser ("Option" key) it takes minutes until something happens.

Oct 2, 2018 9:37 AM in response to Bernard Piller

Bernard you think Apple has a bug to fix if everyone can't boot up in a reasonable time? After Mojave was installed on our iMac at the store 2 days ago, our boot up time is 5+ minutes and our iMac barely functions even after logging in. It takes over 10 minutes to log in.

We've tried all the suggested solutions in this thread and have no external drives. No time machine option either, because the genius bar did the reset and installed Mojave for us .

Oct 2, 2018 1:37 PM in response to Breelynie

*** do I know. It looks like the firmware thoroughly inspects each and every Bit inside the RAM chips or whatever.

BTW, I have 16GB installed (the "you have to order it from the factory" super expensive upgrade, you know). This was my last Mac, I swear. Bought it in Spring because my 7 year old iMac died. Had to buy 3 adaptor cables to keep my Firewire audio gear and external monitor running. MacBooks have been dropped here in 2016, Windows only on my notebooks now. I love them, they even have touch screens! Fook you, Apple.

Oct 3, 2018 2:37 AM in response to maverick1987

Same issue here, updated my Macbook Air (but did not restart it yet to see if it happens there too) and my iMac 2015 which boots from an external SSD (GDrive bought from Apple Store ): very slow boot times and I have to use the ALT option to choose the external drive otherwise it falls back to the default disk where there's an old version of macOS.


Tried the reset PVRAM stuff, no change.


Hope Apple FIXES THIS SOON !

Oct 3, 2018 4:46 AM in response to maverick1987

Exactly same problem here. After installation of Mojave it takes about 3 - 4 minutes until the apple logo is shown and the boot process begins. It even takes ages to get to recovery mode or bring up the boot menu by pressing ALT key on startup.

I use an external SSD crucial MX300 1TB in an icy box case and USB3. My Mac is a iMac late 2013.


I already tried all the regular stuff like resting SMC or PRAM reset. I went back to High Sierra by restoring my Time Machine backup. Now the boot time is back to about 10 seconds.

Oct 3, 2018 6:24 AM in response to maverick1987

I have the exactly same problem.

I am using the external SSD as a boot disk in a USB C enclosure with a USB3.1 cable.

After the upgrade the boot time is increased to ~5 min.

The same problem was there in High Sierra when I first installed the SSD as a boot device. I noticed that the problem was due to APFS back then. Because the internal HDD was HFS+ while the SSD was APFS, I have read in some thread that if the boot drive is APFS and the internal HDD is HFS+ then the system takes more time to boot. somehow they were not compatible together so I changed the SSD format to HFS+. (now both the external SSD as well as internal HDD was HFS+) and I noticed the problem solved and boot time was ~20 sec.


Fast FW 23 sep.

After upgrade to Mojave- SSD format changed automatically to APFS, while internal HDD was still HFS+ and boot time increased to ~5 min. I thought that this might be because of the same problem of HFS vs APFS incompatibility. so this time I changed the internal HDD format to APFS (I think that was my mistake), because I have read a lot of good stuff about APFS. but nothing helped, the boot time is very long.

If anyone comes with a solution please let me know.

Thanks

Slow boot time after update to Mojave - External SSD

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