Slow boot time after update to Mojave - External SSD

Hello!


I have a iMac 21" 4k 3,1ghz 2015. I installed an external SSD Samsung 860 Evo 512gb to avoid losing the Apple 1yr warranty if I opened my iMac by myself.


So when I was using APFS format and OSX High Sierra, my iMac used to start, then 2 seconds with a completely empty screen(black) looking for the boot SSD, then the Apple logo appear and it would take another 18 seconds for the system to start completely.

Total boot time = ~20secs.


Now I installed the new MacOS Mojave and my current boot time are very very slow; when I turn on the computer the screen stills black for 2 minutes more or less "looking for my external boot SSD" and then the Apple logo appear and +18secs the system starts.

My current boot time = More than 2~3minutes!!!!

I have also a MacBook Pro 2017 TouchBar and TouchID with 512GB integrated SSD also with APFS format, and update this from High Sierra to Mojave at the same day/time to the iMac. Fortunately the MacBook Pro booting done in about 20secs.


So... There is any solution for fixing this "everlasting" blank screen when booting the iMac with MacOS Mojave and external SSD with APFS format?

I've researched about this, but I can't find anything to solve it. So, I hope someone here may help me!



Thanks!

iMac, macOS Mojave (10.14)

Posted on Sep 28, 2018 8:34 AM

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Posted on Oct 16, 2018 4:22 PM

I can confirm that just moving my external SSD from USB to Thunderbolt enclosure solves the delay at Mojave startup. I use Delock 42510 (85 EUR at amazon.it + 11 EUR Standard shipping with DHL road) and an Apple Thunderbolt cable (35 EUR).


In my opinion UEFI bootloader either tries to recognize the drive as SSD or wants to read its Firmware revision. This looks like a problem in UEFI and most probably is related to the limit that Apple put on external HDDs to use APFS last year.


Looking at System Information and DriveDX logs, I found several differences. In the Thunderbolt enclosure, drive is recognized as SSD with its Firmware revision, non-Removable, with native S.M.A.R.T. support, Bus Type = SATA, ATA Features = 0x-1, SATA Features = 0x2e. TRIM is not enabled.


In the USB enclosure, drive is not recognized as SSD, it's Removable, there is no Firmware revision, no native S.M.A.R.T. support, Bus Type = USB, ATA Features = 0x20, SATA Features = 0x-1. TRIM is not supported.

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Dec 1, 2018 3:52 PM in response to fototypo

I use external Thunderbolt SSD (which boots < 1 sec. to the Apple logo), but my VM volume was not mounted as well ("diskutil apfs list"). This seems to be another bug that Apple have to fix. I mounted VM volume manually and tested with "memory_pressure -l critical". The swap is working properly, now. Thanks for letting us know.

Dec 26, 2018 4:42 PM in response to TravellingKiwi

A fellow can have an External SSD and Mojave and Slow Boot times (i.e., pretty much the exact topic of this thread, almost word-for-word) but still not please the volunteer Off-Topic Police because one dares to mention -- gasp -- "Little Snitch."


Happy to be informed that it also happens in High Sierra, although I've not seen that myself. The first time I saw it was when I cloned my High Sierra 1TB internal SSD to a 2TB external SSD and then updated the clone to Mojave and tried to boot to it. Indeed, had I not experienced the problem, I never would have Googled up this thread nor commented within it.


I await a MacOS update (and -- hold on to your hats OT Police -- an update to "Little Snitch") to see how those updates address the problem.

Jan 23, 2019 6:30 AM in response to Del Rei

Thats strange. Mine takes about 5 seconds max before the Apple Logo comes up. I have 3 External USB 3 HD, 1 BR/DVD Burner/Reader, Scanner attached to my iMac. They power up first and spin up then the iMac Apple logo comes up less that 5 seconds. Then the boot up process is super fast as before with the External SSD. Perhaps a combo update is what you need or make sure you select the SSD as the Startup Disk again?

Jan 23, 2019 6:49 AM in response to Del Rei

Instead of doing the Mac OS Update Only from the control panel, which only applies added updates, Apple has the combination update which combines all. In some cases for some users (including me) this has helped resolved strange behavior after a standard update. If my Mac is acting weird after the standard update, I use the combo to stabilize it. Lately the normal updates has been good, except for this boot delay, that I haven't had the need to do a combo in awhile. Some people like to do combo updates only. https://support.apple.com/downloads

Jan 23, 2019 6:46 PM in response to JB Cheong

We... Installed the Combo update version. Same thing as the regular 10.14.3 update.

Takes about 25~27 seconds to show the apple logo. And more 35 seconds to get fully started and ready to use.


Come on... It is a 2017 27"!

Should be better this boot.


I'm using my Samsung T5 1TB connected to the USB-C port.

https://www.samsung.com/us/computing/memory-storage/portable-solid-state-drives/portable-ssd-t5-1tb-mu-pa1t0b-am/


With my internal FusionDrive the apple logo appears in about 5~6 seconds and more 25~30 seconds to get fully started and ready to use.


Now it's much better than those 3min to start, but still not solved my problem yet.

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