iOS 12 cellular data list of apps

carmenfromseaside wrote:

We’re not “looking at them”. We’re turning them off & on to save data & not get notifications &’tonsave battery life. They aren’t in the data usage section or screen. They’re in the Cellular Data section where you enable or disable your apps

Settings/Cellular IS the data usage section. It always has been. It has always been the only place that app data usage has been displayed.

I turn off celular data when I travel and then turn it back on as needed. I typically simm use many apps over WiFi and when I suddenenly need one to use celilar dats, I have to hunt. I have lots of apps. They are my digital tools.

I think this was a terrible change.

Why are you telling me? I can't change anything. https://apple.com/feedback is the right place.

I would (and have) called it a solution that I have used long before iOS 12. With over 300 apps it's a great convenience. So I don't see finding the exact app by name is a workaround for scrolling through a hundred or more apps. Whatever.

georgefromcal wrote:

For God's sake, Apple, FIX THIS!

There is nothing to FIX. It is working exactly as Apple intended it to work, and I have found it to be a MUCH more user-friendly organization of the listing of apps that use cellular data. I no longer have to scroll through the ridiculous alphabetical listing of my 300 apps when I want to find the app that is hogging my cellular data. If you actually care about how to use this new, improved organization you will find some useful tips in the thread you posted to. You might as well learn them, because it is unlikely to change.

For God's Sake, Apple, DON'T SWITCH THIS BACK TO THE TERRIBLE WAY IT USED TO BE ORGANIZED.

I'm sure you realize that neither my post nor yours will have the slightest effect on what Apple does, because Apple does not read this user-to-user forum for opinions or ideas. If you want to communicate with Apple use https://apple.com/feedback.

It is not easier when you want to toggle on/off more than one. What’s easier is the Apps listed in alpha order. Period. End of story. As the adage goes ... if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it!!! Also, whoever marked this complaint as “SOLVED” is dead wrong. The response to the problem is UNSATISFACTORY and they either need to allow the user to determine the sort or return it to the way it was!

Does your phone have unlimited voice, text and data (my daughter's T-Mobile does). If so, then there is never a need to reset, and, for that matter, never a reason to turn off cellular data for any app.

Apps only use energy when they are actively running, and only use battery associated with cellular data when downloading or uploading. If you have a Wi-Fi connection it overrides cellular data, so it doesn't matter whether you have cellular data on or off; the app won't use cellular data and thus will not use energy. If you don't have a Wi-Fi connection and apps are turned off in cellular data then they won't be able to access the Internet when they are the active on-screen app. If you are not actively using an app it won't use any data, either Wi-Fi or cellular. So again, there is no reason to turn off cellular data if you have unlimited data.

The exceptions:

Background App Refresh: If you want to control battery use the better place is Background App Refresh. If apps are on there then they are allowed to use data when they are not the active on-screen app. Very few do, however.

Wi-Fi Assist: If this is on, when your Wi-Fi speed is slower than your cellular data speed it will switch to cellular data and not use Wi-Fi. This will mostly happen when using public Wi-Fi hotspots.

In general, it is not necessary to micromanage iOS. It does a very good job on its own.

“Apps only uses energy when they are actively running...”

I’ve had apps update and have a BUG, and be running in the background until the next update or two fixed the issue! I knew because my battery would run down quicker and then be normal again after the next update.

So yeah, if I want to micromanage iOS, by keeping data switched off for apps until I want to use them, to prevent a bug from sucking up everything, then that’s my business. And THAT is when the alphabetized list (without more scrolling) came in handy!

At the very least, Apple could give us the OPTION of which view we want to start out with:

Alphabetized List View or

Data Usage List View!

Period.

OntarioAngel4025 wrote:

This new list is maddening for those of us who use our phones this way. If you have 300-some apps, that’s your problem. We others want the old alphabetized list back. And no, we don’t want to have to scroll more to find it at the bottom of everything else!

I explained above how to access an alphabetized list. However, Maps is even easier. Go to Settings>Maps and turn it off from there.

OntarioAngel4025 wrote:

For instance, I usually leave the data to a few weather or map apps off until I want to use them - so I can easily be sure they aren’t running in the background.

Turning cellular data on or off has absolutely NO AFFECT on whether an app is running in the background. Apps can run in the background whether they have access to cellular data or not. For one thing, they still have Wi-Fi. And many apps are not good about recognizing they don't have access to data; they keep trying and failing, using up battery life. To stop apps from running in the background the proper place is settings/general/background app refresh. If an app is off there it will never run in background.

This new list is maddening for those of us who use our phones this way.

It is pointless to use the phone that way. It's just a placebo that has no effect on the problem you incorrectly think you have.

mom4youth1 wrote:

I have the same issue with this list not being alphabetically listed. It is reducing my productivity since I use my phone for volunteer work! Apple, PLEASE change it back!!!

PLEASE read the thread you posted to so users here don’t have to repeat and repeat and repeat what has already been said.

I also don’t have the settings on the bottom of the screen after updating to iOS12. “iCloud Drive “ is the last section at the bottom. And, I agree that it takes a long time to load the list of apps. Every time you switch to another screen and go back to the list, the spinning load icon starts all over. Below are two screen shots to ilustrate.

I encourage for users to leave feedback to include a sort option as you already have.

Because going to the “data usage” section (which I think is gone now) on your phone wasn’t simple enough?

People like to toggle on and off apps that are using data from the alpha list...it should be pretty simple to understand that.

Let’s say you’re at a restaurant and want to use their app for reward points. You use to go to Settings, Celluar, and a quick scroll based on alpha listing and toggle data use on. When finished with the app you could then go toggle off. Now it takes more time to scroll because the list is based on “size” and organized by “installed” and “uninstalled” (which I can’t figure that one out...most of my apps are under the “unistalled” heading, but are on my phone).

This is a basic case of Apple fixing something that wasn’t broken...again.

Great suggestion!

Wish Apple would fix the default from sending you to “Settings > Cellular”...

When you try and open an app, and the app is on WiFi only, iPhone asks if you want to change in “Settings.” When you press Settings you are redirected to “Cellular”, which takes a while to load due to trying to organize list by data usage (read person’s original complaint from first part of the thread).

Can’t wait to see what Apple is going to “fix what isn’t broken” for 13.0.