Mac Os Mojave freezes

if faulty ram was your issue, it's good you could swap it out ....

it makes me wonder what quality ram they use for the apple laptop lineup then ....

haven't been able to verify a memory issue with my hardware so far, though that doesn't mean there is no issue.

if it turns out that there is .... i wouldn't be returning to apple for a new laptop in the future - can't replace the ram or the ssd in new models.

for me, the type of things i use my computer for dont necessarily require much ram and i think im covered by my 16GB. although im not sure whether any apple apps are requiring much more than they used to (safari, for instance).

regarding 32 bit apps i would suspect they are not causing the freezing, but i could be wrong. speaking directly to this issue, its happened more often with safari than other things.

has anyone tried installing 10.14.4 now that its mainstream ? i’m staying away from anything newer than high sierra, since mojave wont let me keep hfs+.

i am noticing how the door is being shut on core features and functions macos used to support, without chance of letting legacy technologies coexist (file system, opengl, apf protocol, etc).

imo, a bad decision to proceed that way, but i am sure by the way apple reasons that its for their best interests.

I have the last update of Mojave’s OS 10.14.4 and it keeping freezing included the safe mode. My MacBook Pro is a Retina 13” 2014.

I’ve already tried the spotlight process, but didn’t work for me.

I’m running out of ways to solve it. No error messages, nothing, the system only freezes and the mouse still working.

i'm wondering if flash or java may have something to do with this. or SMB ... can't tell. it's kind of tough to use the internet with java disabled. and refraining from connecting to my network shares via SMB is also not going to happen.

but it is quite unbearable, especially for those who this happens all the time and depend on a dependable experience, if that makes any sense ....

i got 3 freezes out of nowhere yesterday, all within a period of a few hours.

as before, i'm clueless based on everything i've tried. the logs themselves do not log anything while the freeze is actually taking place.

with this thread going past the 20 page mark, i think it's time to take action in some visible way, such as bringing this to the attention of any tech site that will put this issue out there for all to see.

I do not suggest etrecheck because it is not in App Store

Actually, it is.

https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/etrecheck/id1423715984?mt=12

i very much doubt Apple knows the author is continually pushing to sell a product in communities - they likely believe it is still free. (i believe they do not allow software sales pushes in their community help forums, no other company i know of would allow it)

Actually, the developer is one of our long time and very knowledgeable participants.

you are outlining a series of steps that has been tried before, i can attest to doing what you suggested.

i demonstrated that regardless of high sierra or mojave, regardless of apfs of hfs+, regardless of 3rd party app presence : the beachball of death still occurs.

etrecheck is not finding an issue either

QuietMacFan wrote:

etrecheck?

Payment information collected on the etrecheck.com web site: We use an external payment processor to handle all license purchases. 

What is your question about this? Although EtreCheck is free, it does have in-app purchases available for people who want extra features. Etresoft, Inc. is far too small to handle international payments ourselves. We use Paddle.com for purchases in EtreCheckPro and Apple for in-app purchases from EtreCheck in the Mac App Store.

I do not suggest etrecheck because it is not in App Store

EtreCheck is in the Mac App Store. Please see babowa’s link above.

users cannot say for sure if the binary does not have viruses in it, nor can Apple help them - because it is not in the App Store.

Can users ever be sure that an app doesn’t contain malware? Users should do their own research before downloading or installing any software. Don’t assume something is safe just because it is in the Mac App Store.

However, if EtreCheck did contain malware, Apple could still help. For one thing, EtreCheck is available in the Mac App Store so Apple could just remove it. But even EtreCheckPro, which isn’t in the Mac App Store, is under Apple’s control. EtreCheckPro is signed and notarized by Apple. Apple’s Developer Agreement License agreement (see section 5.3) forbids me from saying too much about the notarization process. However, Apple can revoke EtreCheckPro’s Developer ID certificate and notarization token at any time if any malicious activity is discovered.

I cannot find the source code i cannot tell you if the binary is repeatable from the source or might contain viruses and that worries me. at one time the etrecheck author posted source however i no longer see it available.

The source code for EtreCheck version 3.4.7 is still available on GitHub if you wanted to look at it. But any versions of EtreCheck since then are no longer open source. However, even if you had access to the source, that would be a lot of code to review. It is about 66,000 lines of code now.

ETRECHECK used to be free. i very much doubt Apple knows the author is continually pushing to sell a product in communities - they likely believe it is still free. (i believe they do not allow software sales pushes in their community help forums, no other company i know of would allow it)

EtreCheck is still free, although it does have a Power User in-app purchase available. However, anyone recommending EtreCheck here in the forums would only be recommending its use for free. The free version will identify major and minor issues, generate a text-based report, and allow access to security features such as adware detection and removal. Generally, it is that text-based report that people here in the forums are asking for.

Originally, that text-based report was all that EtreCheck would do. But it turned out that people were using it on their own, without posting any reports here on Apple Support Communities, or posting reports in other forums and getting poor responses. So, I enhanced EtreCheck to better support those people who were running it on their own. But since that activity is separate from Apple Support Communities, I do charge for it.

And finally, I do not “continually” push EtreCheck here in the forums. I very rarely post a links to EtreCheck. Apple is well-aware of my activity here in the forums. I try hard to keep them happy. Generally, that is pretty easy to do as long as one abides by the Apple Support Communities Use Agreement - Apple Community, which I do, at least most of the time. 😄

just to point out a statement you made ....

it's not the file system (assuming you are using an SSD-based mac).

i recently redid my entire configuration (not restoring from Time Machine either), with High Sierra and HFS+ file system for the operating system fs. in addition, i do not use 3rd party externals like mice or something else.

i continue to have beachballs of death.

am also ruling out hardware in this issue, because as I type this reply I am loaded into Windows 10 (via boot camp), and my experience on the Windows side on my mbp has been much more stable and reliable (noted that i am also using 3rd party attachments via usb while in windows). in addition, i've tried my own battery of hardware tests as well as apple's rigorous 4+ hour test by the genius bar.

on a side note, i just noticed an issue with this forum, while typing my replies, the blinking cursor seems to disappear and trying to click somewhere in the text i'm typing - is not bringing it back.

my conclusion here is that apple has let performance and quality of their products slip over time. as if they've outsourced them to some 3rd parties half way around the world.

I noticed the cursor issue last time I posted, but today it seems to be OK (so far). When I did have the problem I found that clicking outside the text entry box and then going back inside worked, but if I tried to go back to another point in the text the same problem occurred.

i also use audacity and chrome (no plugins).

i don't suspect them myself, there are no direct beachballs i experience while using them.

rather, my beachballing is so random it happens in any app, safari, chrome, chronosync, itunes, etc. not going to list everything right now but you get my point.

doing that will cripple the integrations i have with ios ..... are you referring to icloud drive only, or all the integrations that rely on icloud ?

will give it a try to see if that improves my week any

current usage of icloud for me is:

• reminders
• safari
• notes
• keychain
• find my mac

i don't use icloud drive for any files storage, but it was enabled. i just disabled it. but the above 5 components are still enabled since i use them for ios integration.

disabling icloud drive did not fix.

most recent beachballing just occurred a moment ago, as i opened a finder window on one of my SMB shares, and double-clicked a folder in the share. from there, the entire OS froze, was not able to bring up force quit, or pull down the apple menu or any drop down menus for that matter.

ok thanks

disabling those integrations .... i suppose doing it for a week and observing is doable, for the sake of identifying an issue with icloud in macos.

also, some time this eve ill get that etrecheck report to post here ...

"if it is indeed an icloud bug in the os, why hasn’t it been widespread and far reaching, that’s another question i wonder about"

yeah that is a good question.

Maybe we have some kind of "special data" which fails - or notes with same titles which are somehow ill-indexed because of the similarity. But this is just a really vague thought.