Pages won't change order in Pages

All I want to do is re-arrange the pages in my E-Book.

Drag and drop in the sidebar doesn't work.

Others have also asked this question - so I'm not the only one...

It used to do it in the old version - why not now?

And how do I re-arrange them please?

iMac & iPad, iOS 4

Posted on Oct 15, 2018 7:31 AM

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Posted on Oct 15, 2018 11:34 AM

Neither Pages '09 v4.3, or any later version of the less featured Pages applications (after Fall 2013) will allow you to drag page thumbnails to rearrange them while enclosed in a section block. Now, you get to select the page that you want to move, cut it from the document, and then immediately insert it before the page where you want it moved too.


Only Apple could get away with this crude word processing nonsense. Non-Apple word processing applications are in full press competition with one another, and omitting a simple way to move pages around would lose customers.

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Oct 15, 2018 11:34 AM in response to Lesley in Spain

Neither Pages '09 v4.3, or any later version of the less featured Pages applications (after Fall 2013) will allow you to drag page thumbnails to rearrange them while enclosed in a section block. Now, you get to select the page that you want to move, cut it from the document, and then immediately insert it before the page where you want it moved too.


Only Apple could get away with this crude word processing nonsense. Non-Apple word processing applications are in full press competition with one another, and omitting a simple way to move pages around would lose customers.

Oct 15, 2018 4:08 PM in response to VikingOSX

I am critical of Apple where it gets things wrong or is muddled and inconsistent in their design (too often now unfortunately), but not in their insistence on preventing document scrambling.


Moving Sections by dragging makes sense because Sections have defined beginnings and ends and the content of the Section is one block of text. Pages however in Word Processing documents thread themselves across page boundaries and dragging their thumbnails around rapidly ties the text into knots. Something I experienced very early on in my DTP days when a client (actually two clients, issuing conflicting instructions) insisted I rearrange the pages in a long report, whereupon we soon could not untangle the loops of text flowing willy nilly back and forth.


IF your document has logical breaks based on pages, then either use a Layout template or add Section Breaks at the end of each page making each a Section. At which point I remind readers that Page Breaks are what they say they are and are NOT Section Breaks!

Oct 16, 2018 5:45 AM in response to Lesley in Spain

If it was a Layout document and you could not move the thumbnail, is it possible you were looking at the Master Page of that Layout? ...and when you reopened the document you were back to the normal page thumbnail?


Apple's chosen method for Master Pages is frankly extremely confusing for what should be straight forward.


You may want to look at alternative Apps. Swift Publisher is one and Affinity Publisher is currently in beta but looks like it will be extremely good once ready for prime time.

Oct 16, 2018 3:26 AM in response to PeterBreis0807

I am using a Layout Template as it is a 60+ page manual with different Master Slide template backgrounds...

I have no trouble duplicating a page but sometimes I cant move them.

After posting this yesterday somehow I was able to move them again for no apparent reason other than I shut it down for a while and re-opened later.

Maybe the iMac Gods felt sorry for me? lol

Thanks for your help, but agree Apple do need to get their act together!!!

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