Spotlight and Spinning Color Wheel

Mouse over Spotlight gives me only a color spinning wheel.... I have tried deleting the index....nothing. I have tried deleting spotlight plist. If I start in Safe Mode problem goes away. loaded each of the disabled pref panes and still the problem did not come back. Reboot out of Safe Mode bammm!!! ....!??

I also created a new user and the problem disappears..... so its not the external drives.

Any ideas? The thought of another rebuild fills me with dread.

Chris

Dual 2ghz G5, Mac OS X (10.4.8)

Posted on Feb 19, 2007 4:39 AM

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Feb 19, 2007 4:58 AM in response to ogle

Hi Chris,

I'm not sure I follow you. Booting in Safe Mode and testing with another account tells you it is a startup item. It will always function correctly in Safe Mode, since Safe Mode disables Startup Items.

So you should boot normally and drag ~/Library/StartupItems to the desktop. Does (did) that solve the problem? If so, begin adding items back one at a time until you find the culprit.

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Feb 19, 2007 3:07 PM in response to ogle

Well, here is exactly what Safe Mode disables. You might work through the list but the fact that SystemUIServer is not responding may just indicate a corrupt preference.


Navigate to ~/yourHome/Library/Preferences/ByHost/ com.apple.systemuiserver.xxxxxxxxxx.plist where "xxx" corresponds to numbers and letter sand any other apple.systemuiserver.plists there. Then log out and back in or restart.

If that's not the problem, then be sure to back up of all your data. Then, run Disk Utility booted from your DVD install disk, or another drive. Did that sort it?

If not, you may be able to repair this with 10.4.8 PPC Combo Update

This is a fuller install, as opposed to an incremental "delta" update so it should overwrite any files that are damaged or missing. It does not matter if you have applied it before. It has worked well for many.

Remember to Verify Disk before update and repair permissions after update from /Applications/Utilities/Disk Utility.


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Feb 19, 2007 3:07 PM in response to dustdog

dustdog, Welcome to Apple Discussions.

You are assuming that this is an Apple Update problem because you see a problem similar to yours or even identical. But after every update, some folks experience problems. Usually because there was some pre-existing system corruption and the update exacerbated it.

Remember that being in here and looking at the posts is like being in a hospital emergency room. Almost everyone is here because they have problems. But this is only a tiny fraction of the user base. Most folks have downloaded their updates are going merrily about their computing. And they don't post to say so 😉

I also haven't seen anything to indicate that there was anything wrong with the update or any consistent pattern to the problems posted.

EDIT: Also asking Apple won't help here. These are user-to-user forums. Usually there are no Apple employees here other than the Hosts. Occasionally, Apple employees may log on and are always identified by an Apple logo. (Don't hold your breath looking for one 😉


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Feb 19, 2007 4:51 AM in response to ogle

Chris, before you do anything else, I

Suggest you check out The XLab site's Frequently Asked Questions (X-FAQs) http://www.thexlab.com/faqs/sbbod.html

In particular "The Spinning Beach Ball of Death" at
http://www.thexlab.com/faqs/sbbod.html

As you will see, most (if not all of) the best fixes coming out of this forum were from this site, Apple's Help or Support site. But in a more constructive manner than some of the recommendations that we members would throw at you.

I have personally bought the book. Great investment.

Best

Feb 19, 2007 12:28 PM in response to ogle

There have been problems between SystemUIServer, Spotlight and various menu bar items from day one of Tiger. Some of them have been fixed, some haven't. Take everything off the Spotlight side of the menu bar and make sure none of the items you remove are set to be added back automatically on restart. The menu bar should have nothing on the Spotlight side except Spotlight. If something does appear, find out if it is still checked in System Prefs or is listed in your System Prefs->Accounts->Login items and remove it. Once it starts clean, without anything up there except Spotlight, see if Spotlight now works correctly. If it does you know there is a conflict. Add your menu bar items back one at a time, try the items function, then try Spotlight. Eventually you will discover which item it is that is causing the problem. The only solution is not use that menu bar item.
Francine

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Feb 19, 2007 1:35 PM in response to Francine Schwieder

Thanks for the suggestions. Unfortunately none have gotten me any further:

Daniel - I had already been through the "Spinning Ball of Death" FAQ without success.

MJ - I have done exactly this. Dragged the Startup items to the desktop as well as remove all Login items from the Accounts pref pane. It seems that Safe Mode disables more than this, as my problem still exists.

Francine - I do indeed (normally) have a number of menu bar items loaded. I have removed them ALL and still my problem persists!! I do however note that in Activity Monitor the System SUI Server is indicated in red as 'not responding' so theres some sucker in there freezing things up - just cant find it!

Feb 19, 2007 1:39 PM in response to ogle

Can't believe that not anyone from Apple has responded to this problem. I updated via System Update and now I'm having this problem. I can't log in, I have used Disk Repair, but no avail. Problem seems to be Spotlight, but I can't do anything, but to acces my HD through another computer. Deleting the user-cache doesn't work either.
Apple, do you have a solution?

Feb 19, 2007 1:42 PM in response to dustdog

Dustdog

I had stopped short of suggesting that this problem was related to the latest Software Updates - fact is that this is when my problem arrived - after the update - it may be a coincidence but would like to know if there are others out there experincing this issue. Even more interested if someone has found a solution!

Chris

Feb 19, 2007 3:09 PM in response to ogle

As well as macjack's suggestions, there is also this file you can try deleting:

"/Users/yourname/Library/Preferences/com.apple.systemuiserver.plist"

I have not run the Security Updates (and don't plan to, I generally wait until they are part of a complete OS update, and 10.4.9 will be along Any Day Now), so I can't comment on whether they could have messed up something. I did look at the things that SystemUIServer is using in ActivityMonitor (select a running process, click the Inspect icon, then click the "Open Files and Ports" tab to see what's what) and I see that SystemUIServer is consulting two things involving Security:

/System/Library/Frameworks/Security.framework/Versions/A/Security
/System/Library/Frameworks/SecurityInterface.framework/Versions/A/SecurityInterf ace

Both the Security and SecurityInterface binaries I have were last modified on Oct 4, 2006, which is when I ran the 10.4.8 update. You could check yours and see if they have been modified more recently.
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Feb 19, 2007 4:00 PM in response to macjack

Hi All

Well the problem is gone....but I am still none the wiser but thought I would share this.

The last thing I did was I removed all Preference Panes from both the system level and user level and restarted.....bingo! Problem fixed. Heres the weird bit however....I then added them back one at a time, restarting in between, and ..... you guessed it - they all went back and the problem did not reappear!

Anyway, its a fix - of sorts!

Chris

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