Hello all,
Been looking for this info but have not found anything. Im looking to upgrade the SSD in my 2013 Mac Pro (trash can) with a 970 evo (via adapter) I've read that these have been a issue in some earlier macbooks but works fine with 2015 models and up. I know the Mac Pro was pretty future proof so I wanted to see if someone was using this or the 960 evo in their Mac Pro and how's its working out?
Mac Pro, iOS 12.1
I''ve being using this set up for about two weeks on my late 2013 Mac Pro: my initiation to get it done properly is as follows:
1- Save you data to start because you'll be removing the default Apple internal SSD.
2- just make sure BEFORE swapping the SSD that with High Sierra with all Security updaters or Mojave was installed on that computer before pulling the default SSD. You are trying to get the latest firmware update into that computer.
3- I used the Simtech with the Samsung 970 NVMe placed into it. Seat it properly then only install either High Sierra or Mojave onto that Samsung. Anything earlier is not going to work. Don't even use Disk Utility to try and make it an HFS disk. Not going to do the job.
4- the 2013 Mac Pro boots, sleeps and wakes properly.
5- ASP shows as TRIM = YES. amazing
6- ASP shows link width as 4 another amazing
7- HEAT I used Intel power gadget to measure and the heat difference between the Apple default and this Samsung was one degree, This was placing stress using Handbrake on one full encode. I have not used a heat sink on the Samsung. If you read the Samsung readme found online they spout off about their superior product to control heat. I'm pretty sure heat will not be a big issue especially not using a program such a Handbrake. But if over time it does then I'll just swap in my Apple default. Keep that default around in case you need to make any other firmware update.
Good luck for me so far so good.
ps I did try this on my late 2013 rMBPRO , it took my install but remained screen black but turned on and would not boot. So I pulled it and replaced the Apple default and got it back to normal. I'm thinking that I did not pull the battery connector and that might have caused an SMC problem which I could not clear. I'm going to try it again but I'm not hung up on this one.
The intel 660 or 760 is not going to give you what you are looking for, the Samsung does a better job concerning heat.
I tried that without success. Also tried reinstalling High Sierra, with no luck either.
It would be worth setting DriveDX to show the same screen as per https://discussions.apple.com/thread/8643139?answerId=250160661022#250160661022
However I get the impression your report might also be indicating a similar heat related concern. Does your SSD have a heatsink? As per the bottom entry in your photo.
Hello, Smokerz,
How about your setup of the 970 evo Mac Pro 2013?
I recently got a "No SSD" Mac Pro 2013, I insert an Intel 760p (500GB) with adaptor, and run High Sierra USB installer.
It detected the Intel SSD. But by mistake, I chose "Journelized" format, and proceed installaton. OSX quit the progress after short while of reboot.
I have erased the volume and re-formatted with AFPS, but the formatted volume cannot be chosed on beginning.
I noted some guy have said "new" MAC PRO only accept Apple SSD arround the time:
Is it really the case.
Your comment is welcome.
Regards,
Ben (from Hong Kong SAR - NOT MAINLAND CHINA)
Thanks,
The installer should be alright, since I have used it to flesh install High Sierra into several old MacBook Pros (Retina 2012 & N-R 2011) & iMac (pre 2011).
And the OSX version is 10.13.4.
Or is it my 760p is faulty (cannot white in some logic area)?
Regards,
Thanks, all,
Your guy always helpful.
I made another USB installer (this time with Mojave!), and got the same outcome. Intel 760p SSD is detected and can be formatted, but cannot write on it.
I suspect the nMP may be not being updated its firmware to High Sierra. I may need to fetch a apple SSD to verify and update.....
Anyways, thanks a lot.
Regards,
Ben (again, from Hong Kong SAR - NOT MAINLAND CHINA)
First, I want to thank all you guys for documenting this. We have 7 Late 2013 Mac Pro's in our studios and HDD space was getting tight to say the least. I have been looking for options and I like this one best. I have done all the updates and verifications and all are at boot ROM 127.0.0.0.0. I was getting read to start one but wanted to ask this question first. I bought 7 1TB Samsung M.2 970 EVO Plus NVMe SSDs and their corresponding Sintech adapter. I also bought an external NVMe enclosure to test all the SSD's before sticking them in permanently. Once I got one installed in the small enclosure and attached to the Mac Pro, of course it shows up, can be formatted with any of the available formats from APFS to Journaled, etc. I thought, why not clone my current default SSD to the new NVMe drive, ensure its bootable (by selecting it in System Preferences > Startup Disk), THEN do the hardware upgrade. Is this an option at all? I didn't see any one mention it as an option. I ask because we do have a tremendous amount of software on these systems; some software is HD authorized and others require USB dongles and such. If installing from scratch is the only option, I have to get some weekend downtime for these systems.
Let me know your thoughts on this.
Thanks
Dray @ New Ocean
Thanks for your help. I will be restorinh from Time Machine. Appears as though there is more than one way of doing this. Read a few comments about not being able to install OS over the internet due to the limitations of the adapter and others stating it is possible. Majority of users recommend booting from USB and then formatting the drive, I am just not sure how relevant it is if I am restoring from TM anyway...
It's hard for me to explain John, so I've drawn it instead. I'm presuming the person who fitted the heatsink hasn't got to slide it into an adaptor as well.
Are they just regurgitating something they read or did they actually test it in real life. I did and I was not impressed.
Both of those heatsinks/cards include a thermal pads to go between the face of the blade and the aluminium heatsink. The pad is a soft rubber sheet,
What macOS version was on the MP when the SSD failed?
How did you create the High Sierra USB installer?
should work but I gave up cloning years ago so can't give my experiences.
Thanks for the information. I am about to perform this procedure on mine.
One question, do you have to enable TRIM afterwards?
I thought enabling TRIM was only if you were moving from HDD to SSD? Am I wrong?
970 evo mac pro
