Can I FORCE iTunes to store album art in the mp3 file?

I know the answer is no - I guess the question is 'why'? With as many times as I have had to rebuild my library, I am absolutely tired of waiting for album art to keep being downloaded over and over to populate the album art database. I should have the option to store album art in the file itself, and I will accept any performance issues in CoverFlow (which I assume is why this was done).

Has anyone noticed that iTunes seems to keep historical tag information about files somehow? If you move files from one directory to another - which requires you to delete them from the iTunes libarary and then add the new folder (this is all ok) - it sometimes readds the files with incorrect tag info. For instance, I know some files I have had the wrong album in them *originally when I added it to my iTunes library*, but I have since fixed them. When I move the files to a new directory and import it again, iTunes shows the wrong album in the tag again.

Posted on Mar 3, 2007 1:32 PM

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Mar 6, 2007 5:02 PM in response to JAWONE48

Appx 175 of these files were
downloaded from itunes store in aac form and then
converted to mp3. These files do not show any album
artwork in tagscanner and display "format unknown".


Hmm well, a couple things. First, I have no experience with transcoding aac files to mp3 - two reasons: 1) I completely disapprove of propriety file formats (so I never buy anything from iTunes) and 2) I completely disapprove of transcoding. Given that I never process files like this, please take everything I say here with a grain of salt.

I have seen some incompatibility problems when you use multiple MP3 tag processing programs, which is what we are doing here. iTunes generates/updates the tags, so does TagScanner. However I am not seeing what you are, and it sounds like you only see it with the transcoded files, so .. we must conclude there is a problem either with what the transcoding process created, or TagScanner's processing of that data. Impossible to tell which is true without dissecting the files.

More info - TagScanner allows you to specify which tags to write in your files (despite what tag formats are already in there). I choose to write ID3V1 and ID3V2 (select on the dropdown in the upper-right corner of the screen). I do this in all my programs so I have consistency. I think if you loaded a list of files in TagScanner, then selected them all, then hit Save it would update all the tags according to what types you selected. So I think this explains why your tag formats changed. You could make it match what the transcoding process did, but the fact it says the format is invalid would make me wary of that.

One important point: until you know you can really trust ANY tag-edting program you should copy some of you mp3s to a different directory and play with them for a while there until you are convinced everything works. Never perform an operation on all MP3 files you have until you are really sure the program works and does what you want it to do. You could add the temporary directory to iTunes to make sure it is happy with it, then delete those files and apply the update to your main folder.

One final note - if you see artwork in TagScanner, then it is definitely embedded in the file. It does not know anything about iTunes databases.

Mar 6, 2007 9:33 PM in response to yo mama

Yomama ... greetings again one more time. I followed your suggestion and did some experimenting with the files. I discovered that the songs that would not display artwork in Tagscanner were those with tag id 2.2, while the ones that did show the artwork were tag id 2.3. itunes has an option to change all your songs to the 2.3. I did that and checked to assure that all songs still played,burned, and synched with my ipod. All ok. And all artwork appears in tagscanner.
I think I'm where I want to be. Thanks again for your advice.
jawone48

Mar 7, 2007 6:59 AM in response to JAWONE48

Yomama ... greetings again one more time. I followed
your suggestion and did some experimenting with the
files. I discovered that the songs that would not
display artwork in Tagscanner were those with tag id
2.2, while the ones that did show the artwork were
tag id 2.3. itunes has an option to change all your
songs to the 2.3. I did that and checked to assure
that all songs still played,burned, and synched with
my ipod. All ok. And all artwork appears in
tagscanner.
I think I'm where I want to be. Thanks again for your
advice.
jawone48


Very nice! Never underestimate the power of playing around with software to figure out how to work around what it does. If you use iTunes a lot, that is good training for doing such things 🙂

To answer your question about what incompatibilities you might see, all I've ever seen are tag display issues. I would think it would be rare that a file would be unplayable just by modifying basic tag fields like name, album etc.

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