Side by Side: Apple Aperture and Adobe Lightroom in S.F.

Give 'em **** Joe! And steal all the good parts for Aperture while you're at it.



Pro Mac 2.66Ghz/8GB/250GB + 1TB RAID 0 wi SoftRAID in bays 2,3/X1900 Mac OS X (10.4.8) MacBookPro 2.16Ghz/2GB/100GB 7200rpm

Wow, maybe this is what Schorr meant by "VERY soon" in this post in this thread on March 10th.

"Actually, Apple has annouced that Aperture support for the Pentax K10D, K100D, and K110D will be available very soon.

We will also be adding support for 11 other RAW formats from different cameras, including the Nikon D40, Leica Digilux 3, Panasonic Lumix DMC-L1, Samsung GX-1L, and seven of the Leaf Aptus and Valeo models.

Can't publish a release date, but this update will be coming VERY soon.

Joe Schorr
Sr. Product Manager, Aperture
Apple"


http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=4209290&#4209290

If so, as a Pentax k10D owner, I will be happily cleaning Lightroom of my machine and moving ahead with Aperture!


iMac and PB G4 17" Mac OS X (10.4.8)

So will you be posting the summary of the event for those of us not in NoCal??

Really don't care much about the difference between Ap and LR as much as the future direction of Ap.

Thanks in advance!

I just cancelled an appontment to go. Sounds like fun.

Jeff

To make it fair, do you all agree that the Lightroom team should have to use older Mac hardware?

Otherwise, while the Aperture team is waiting and waiting and, well you get the point, for the EXPORT function to finish, the LR team will have been doing it in parallel all along 🙂

Is this just going to be a gingerly Shutterbug Mag like comparison or they gonna rumble and have a real shoot out?

To make it fair, do you all agree that the Lightroom
team should have to use older Mac hardware?

Otherwise, while the Aperture team is waiting and
waiting and, well you get the point, for the EXPORT
function to finish, the LR team will have been doing
it in parallel all along 🙂

Of course the Aperture team would have finished all the actual editing about an hour before they started the export run since they didn't have to keep flipping back and forth between Develop and Library, so in the end it would be a wash. 🙂

Neither Apple or Adobe would have agreed to attend if they were going to put themselves into a potentionally compromising situation. I expect an entertaining evening, but no real substance. I am looking forward to the event and will report.
Jeff

Actually, Kendall, given all the reports on the Adobe forum of LR's import function locking up their PCs and MACs (as it did mine when I tried to use it), the need to flip back and forth in the LR modules wouldn't be an issue. 🙂

PowerMac G5 Dual 2.0 4gig RAM Mac OS X (10.4.8)

You tried this with the GM release?

I was on a trip to Antarctica ~2.5 weeks ago with a number of folks who all ran ~250 GB of images through Lightroom during that 3 week period (Mr. Schewe sure can push the shutter button a lot). LR handled it fine.

I was using Aperture, and it also worked extremely well for me. I shoot with a 1D mark II so I "only" took about 100 GB of shots which I culled to about 35 GB.

LR has some issues -- its library management and select/compare tools are nowhere near as useful as Aperture's, and its modal interface doesn't "click" with some people, as it necessitates a more rigid workflow -- but I think to pass broad strokes like "its import function locks up PCs and Macs" is likely a rare occurrence in very specific circumstances indeed. I tend to dismiss BS like this, be it for Aperture OR Lightroom. Both products, for the most part, work.

William: Not "BS". It shut my system down cold and not so rare as there are many reports of this on the Adobe LR forum as I noted in my original post.

Well put William! This Forum exists to provide information and resolve issues that Aperture users deal with. It is also, but not the only window that Apple has to its Aperture customer base. It serves no purpose to establish an us against them scenereo regarding Lightroom. Both are fine programs, both have issues and room for improvement. As previously stated, we are lucky to have a choice. Let's choose to take the high road and compare if it is beneficial, but there is no reason to emotionally trash either product.
Jeff

The only thing that can shut down your system cold is a wrenched TWAIN driver or some such, which really has nothing to do with the ingesting application itself (in this case Lightroom). Are you pulling images straight off the camera?

William: No. Sandisk card reader as I've always done for thousands of images.

Recently I had a problem with Photoshop. It wouldn't open. An Adobe engineer who spotted my plight on a forum emailed me and we spoke by phone for several hours. Eventually we identified the Twain driver from an Epson scanner as the culprid. Epson has since modified their software.
Jeff