Rendered vs. Unrendered Graphic File Quality

I have a .tif file with a transparency that I layered over a background with other graphic elements. The original file was an .eps that was converted to the .tif format in Photoshop. The current logo on the screen is scaled down to 5% of the original size (high res graphic I assume was created for large format printing).

When the file is exported either to a Quicktime Movie or when eventually burned to DVD (which was already done), the "Y" logo is severely pixelated after render. Here are before and after screenshots.

http://imaginelv.com/FCP_Captures/Unrendered.png
http://imaginelv.com/FCP_Captures/Rendered.png

You can see in the unrendered version the Canvas and Viewer match each other in resolution. When moving into the rendered version, there is pixelation I was referring to earlier.

Now look at this screenshot:

http://imaginelv.com/FCPCaptures/Rendered_WithReference.png

Notice that the Viewer window is set to only 25%. This is with the graphic scaled down to 50%, and the quality is great. Here's what happens when the graphic in the viewer is exported as a still using Quicktime Converstion:

http://imaginelv.com/FCPCaptures/YMCA_Y_OnlyExport.png

Finally, here's a still export of the Canvas window, again using Quicktime Conversion:

http://imaginelv.com/FCPCaptures/YMCA_Mission_VideoStill.png

I'm finding the most common answers are to not to use the Canvas and Viewer for your reference monitor, and set the window size to 100%. I know neither of these are the problem. The same effect shows on an external monitor connected via Firewire. I have been using FCP for years, and have never run into this situation before.

The codec setting on the stills is set to DV/DVCPRO-NTSC. I understand that I will lose some resolution with this codec. When set to Uncompressed, things are fine. Since most of the video I work with, including the motion backgrounds, are using the DV/DVCPRO-NTSC setting, it makes sense to match the sequence settings to the imported video.

Any thoughts on how to solve this little dilemma? Should I keep the Sequence set to Uncompressed 8 or 10 bit? I've been scratching my head for days on this problem.

Dual 2.3 GHz PowerPC G5 2.5 GB DDR SDRAM ATI Radeon 9600 Mac OS X (10.4.9)

Dual 2.3 GHz PowerPC G5 2.5 GB DDR SDRAM ATI Radeon 9600, Mac OS X (10.4.9)

Posted on Mar 19, 2007 12:01 AM

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Mar 19, 2007 12:55 AM in response to imaginelv

No need to scratch your head. The DV codec quarters the color resolution, thus the stairstepping you're seeing on the red Y. That looks TOO saturated to translate well to a DVD, even if you use an uncompressed codec.

Reduce the saturation and it should look a bit better - just try the graphic black and white and you'll see what the color is doing to you...

Patrick

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Mar 19, 2007 7:20 AM in response to Patrick Sheffield

You're absolutely correct about red and compression. It's similar to a tattoo, where you can't ever really remove red pigment. It just doesn't work and play well with others. I don't know the technical specifics, but I'm sure Mark Schubin would be able to speak on this with authority.

As far as reducing saturation, I reduced it nearly 50% and the results were identical. When I stick with 8bit 4:2:2 Uncompressed, the graphic looks great (go figure).

I haven't followed discussions recently regarding features in FCP, but has there been any murmur of including vector based graphics support in any future udpates?

Mar 19, 2007 9:03 AM in response to imaginelv

Ya know, when I've had problems with imported still graphics that I know should look better, I keep banging my head against the wall until I make it look better. Unfortunately all this head banging has taken it's toll, and I'm not sure what exactly to do, but try these things and see if you get any better results. Change the field dominance of your sequence to none. In the sequence settings, fool around with the rendering options. I know I've experienced what you're going thru and I've gotten past it. If you want to zap me the tiff file, I'll see if I can figure it out. My email is in my profile.

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