Mini DV Camcorder

Hello, I have an old analog camcorder, and am ready to purchase a mini DV camcorder. I am interested in transferring to i Movie and then edit and burn DVD's. I have been told that the Canon ZR series is excellent for compatibility with i Movie. Does anyone have any recommendations on what to purchase? Thanks, Jim

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Posted on Apr 5, 2007 6:29 PM

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Apr 5, 2007 9:17 PM in response to Anchor 57

I have always been happy with my Sonys. I have the DCR-HC 26 and the 30. They are out-of-the-box compatible with iMovie and are not excessively expensive.
Be sure whatever you get has DV in and out. Don't pay attention to the digital zoom...Optical zoom is the only important one.
Sony calls its Firewire--iLink, but it is the same thing.

Take everyone's recommendations, go to the store and just see what feels good in your hands and has the features you want.

I did read a review in a Mac mag....might have been MacAddict, now MacLife, that said Sony was not so good as Canon, but I have no complaints about Sony's video or audio quality.

Apr 6, 2007 1:23 AM in response to Beverly Maneatis

I did read a review in a Mac mag....might have been MacAddict, now MacLife, that said Sony was not so good as Canon, but I have no complaints about Sony's video or audio quality.

And last month MacWorld voted a Sony HD camera their 'best buy'! Never trust journalists, go by word of mouth!

Having had two of them, I would always buy Sony video cameras. I am also still on analogue (but proper widescreen) but with my Canopus I get exellent results!

Apr 6, 2007 2:02 AM in response to Anchor 57

.. another staisfied Sony user here (for 6y, the to its time 'simplest', TRV14), excellent optcis (Zeis...), excellent battery management, ext. mic-in.. good handling, 101% compatible with Mac/iM...

some Canons cause trouble, due to tthe fact, they don't 'accept' other devices on same firewire-bus (e.g. a ext. harddrive..)

3ccd from Panasonic have an excellent renommeé ...

www.camerainfo.com is a reliable sourve of info ...

and don't forget to buy a tripod.. 😉 (<< internal joke) ...-

Apr 6, 2007 3:45 PM in response to Anchor 57

Jim,

I'll be the voice of the other side, since so many here have bragged about Sony.

I love my Canon Elura 100. I read its review on camcorderinfo.com, and it was well reviewed there. Canon brags that their 1/5 CCD is bigger and better than competitors' 1/6 CCDs. Also, the Canon website would have you believe that their widescreen mode uses the entire CCD, as opposed to other brands that create a false widescreen by cropping the top and bottom of the frame. Go to Canonusa.com for their side of the story. Compare it to the reviews on camcorderinfo and believe what you wish.

To avoid Canon's infamous dislike of "daisychaining," I connect the Firewire directly to my Mac Mini, rather than importing into my external hard drive. I have not had to disconnect the external drive in order to use the Canon; they have coexisted peacefully.

Another thing I like about Canon is the software that comes with it. They make sure that their photo software is Mac compatible. Of course, you don't need anything outside of iLife. But I have had occasion to use the Canon photo software in cases where it could do things that iPhoto/iMovie couldn't do, especially for AVI video clips. Please note that this was for features of my still camera; I have not used the Canon software for any DV footage, and the movie software that comes with the camcorders is NOT Mac compatible. It is the photo software, Image Capture, that I have occasionally used.

I don't work for Canon or receive any compensation for praising their products. I am just a happy consumer who has acquired a degree of brand loyalty based on good experience.

Of course, feeling is believing. It really is important to go to a store and check out the camcorder's controls. You have to decide if you want the controls on the flip-out viewscreen, if you like more or fewer buttons on the back of the body, etc. The design of the Canon ZR series differs from the Elura. Camcorderinfo's review harshly criticizes the layout of the Elura. While I can't argue with any of their points (they are all based on fact) I can say that it hasn't interfered with my use and enjoyment of the camcorder. It really comes down to personal preference.

To convert your old analog footage you need to get a model that has analog input or AV/DV passthrough. I have used my camcorder to capture old analog Super 8 tapes (VHS, too) to mini DV tape, imported to iMovie, and created a DVD. The Elura will convert straight from analog to the Mac (without using a DV tape), but I wanted to update my old footage on DV tape, so I chose not to use the passthrough feature. [From a quick glance at the Canon website, it seems that only the ZR 700 model has the analog to digital conversion feature. The Elura is gone from their list, but still may be for sale at retailers or online stores.] You may also consider a model that has an input for an external microphone. Many models do not; the Elura 100 does.

Both Sony and Canon mini DV camcorders have a good reputation and will work well with iMovie. Just be sure you get the features you need and that you can live with the camera's controls.

Apr 18, 2007 8:06 AM in response to Smtr

Thanks, Smtr, for your input. The Apple Stores have (only) Canon's on display, and the techs there seem to like them. The new ZR series have Firwire connections.
I do have a Canopus conveter that I bought after previous mistake with another product, and I am converting my old VHS tapes to digital, with great results.
So, I would endorse the Canopus. I have a model ADVC-55 which seems to do everything I need to be done.
Regards, Jim

Jul 19, 2007 10:44 AM in response to Roland-OG

I have an Elura 100, very satisfied with it for ease of use and compatibility with all of my Macs, a mini, an iMac G5 PPC and my three month old iMac Intel Core 2 Duo. I also use it as a video recording device off my old technology TV, copies VHS tapes and TV programs into iMovie. Yes, I know that's a pretty big user of disk space, I have an external drive as well just for video.

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