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Why are the colors on screen and print different?

I can't get the colors of my print the same as on the screen.
What are the things I can do to change that?
What can I do with ColorSync?
I have a Canon Pixma IP 3000 and I have two Philips170 S monitors.

Powermac 5, 2x2ghz, Mac OS X (10.4.7)

Posted on Aug 18, 2007 8:13 AM

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Posted on Aug 18, 2007 10:08 AM

Well,I worked on it the whole day and still didn't manage to get the same colors!
On http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/colorsync/ apple says "With Tiger, the color you capture is the same color you see on the screen and in your final printed materials. No waste. No surprises. No disapointments" And "Full Device Support.ColorSync in Mac OS X effortlessly integrates all of your imaging devices, including scanners, digital cameras, displays and printers. This capability is made possible by a device registration database in Mac OS X, which automatically registers at least one profile for every imaging device the moment it’s first connected to a Mac OS X system."
Well.....IT'S VERY DISSAPOINTING!! Doesn't work!
Am I the onely one?...................................
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Aug 22, 2007 2:44 PM in response to Antonio Rocco

Hi there,
Thanks for the replies. Kurt, I selected profile in ColourSync utility under devices / printers and then selected the profile I had put into the library from my old mac. I'll keep experimenting now I know how to change to different profiles.
Tony, I take your point about the paper but it is set to plain paper. I think perhaps you are right that the machine may be faulty because it is painfully slow too so I might pursue that.
Thanks for all the advice -
Regards
Tart

Aug 22, 2007 5:24 PM in response to flying tart

I selected profile in ColorSync utility under devices / printers and then selected the profile I had put into the library from my old mac.


Aha! I see what you're doing now. I'm so used to the app I use having full ColorSync control built in that I've never looked to see what you could do in the ColorSync Utility. Heck, as far as I know, what you did has been there since the beginning of OS X, though I didn't move to OS X until 10.3.x.

As you know, in OS 9, you could only set a few input and output profiles globally with the ColorSync Utility. OS X has taken that function way beyond OS 9 and allows you to assign a profile to each individual device. In OS 9, the global settings rarely worked for non ColorSync aware apps since they simply wouldn't pick them up. But you've proved that it works in OS X by getting a different result after assigning an output profile to your printer in the ColorSync Utility. Even though the app you're using (Word) has no color controls at all.

Here's the basic rules for using ColorSync when printing:

1) Have a proper monitor profile loaded in the Display section of the System Preferences.

2) Select the printer profile for the paper you're using.

3) (The biggie!) Apply ColorSync only ONCE!

I mention the last in particular since you may have unknowingly applied it twice (colors were too light) in your post above. That would have happened because you assigned the profile to the device in the ColorSync Utility. Printing out of Word caused the OS to convert your monitor profile to the color space of the output profile assigned to your printer in the ColorSync Utility. But then the output profile was applied a second time because you clicked the "ColorSync" radio button under the "Printer Color Management" drop down setting of the Epson print driver.

So what you should try is this when printing from Word:

1) When Word's print dialogue comes up, go to the "Print Settings" choice of the drop down menu first. Choose "Plain Paper". Use either "Automatic" or the "Advanced Settings" radio button to choose your detail level. Don't use the "Custom" button. There's a resulting drop down menu that allows you to choose ColorSync. If you do that, you'll be applying ColorSync to the output twice.

2) Go to the "Printer Color Management" section of the print dialogue and select the radio button for "Off (No Color Adjustment)". You want to do this since OS X is going to be handling the ColorSync conversion since you assigned your profile directly to the printer there. If you were to use the "ColorSync" radio button in this section, it would be applied a second time.

3) Click "Print".

How does that work?

Aug 23, 2007 4:14 AM in response to Antonio Rocco

Hi again,
Can't follow your advice exactly as when I click print I don't get a Print Settings choice on the drop down. I do get 'printer features' where I have chosen RGB colour rather than grayscale, CMYK etc.plain paper, automatic resolution, mixed text and graphics image type and economy print quality(because it is so slow). There is no custom button so I can't choose ColorSync there. Nor is there a 'printer colour management' section so all I can do is select a different combination from the 'output mode' 'media type' 'print quality' image type' and 'resolution' drop downs, then save each set under its own name and print to see which gives best results. I cannot understand why my old (cheap) Epson printer was so much faster and more accurate than this new one. And all I did was connect it up, choose speed or quality with the slider and print.
Regards
Tart

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